Ukraine War Live Update w/ Jonathan Fink & Iryna from Dzyga's Paw - Raffle!
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"NATO is a zombie organization. It has no deterrence power. And Putin is minded to test NATO to absolute destruction. I don't think Ukraine in or out of NATO is going to give it the security guarantees that it needs, the genuine, hard-edged security guarantees it needs."
Hello Team
🎦 00:00-00:39⏩
- Jonathan Fink welcomes viewers to the first live stream hosted by him.
- He is joined by Jonathan MS Pearce and Iryna from Dzyga's Paw.
- Jonathan Fink mentions he has invested in new software for live streaming.
- Jonathan MS Pearce expresses feeling strange as he is not in control of the stream!
Introduction of Iryna from Dzyga's Paw and Drones for Ukraine Raffle
🎦 00:39-03:10⏩
- Jonathan Fink introduces Iryna from Dzyga's Paw, noting Jonathan MS Pearce has completed his fundraising target while Jonathan Fink has a few days left.
- They are holding a raffle to encourage donations to Dzyga's Paw, with the aim of purchasing nitron drones. Three drones have already been funded, and they hope to fund more.
- A video featuring Jonathan and Jonathan visiting Dzyga's Paw in Lviv will be released tomorrow.
- They emphasise the continued need for drones in Ukraine, even with peace talks, for Ukrainian resilience.
- They plan to discuss the "phony peace" and recent news headlines, before conducting the raffle later in the stream.
Donald Trump's Pro-Russian Propaganda Statement on Ukraine
🎦 03:10-05:32⏩
- Jonathan MS Pearce introduces the topic of Donald Trump's recent statements, calling it "phony peace".
- He highlights a "True Social" statement from Trump regarding a conversation with Putin, which Jonathan describes as regurgitating Russian propaganda.
- Jonathan quotes Julian Röpke, a German journalist, who calls Trump's statement "100% Russian propaganda" and refutes Trump's claims about surrounded Ukrainian troops.
- Trump's statement claims "thousands of Ukrainian troops are completely surrounded" and that he has "strongly requested to President Putin that their lives be spared".
- Jonathan questions the validity of Trump's claims, stating he is unaware of any analysts reporting Ukrainian troops being completely surrounded, suggesting Putin is manipulating Trump.
Analysis of Trump's Manipulation by Putin and Potential US Policy Shift
🎦 05:32-07:28⏩
- Jonathan expresses concern that Trump's manipulation by Putin will negatively impact negotiations and Ukraine's interests.
- He suggests Trump's options are either to go hard on Russia or to adopt Russia's demands and punish Ukraine for not agreeing to a ceasefire on Russia's maximalist terms.
- Jonathan fears Trump is siding with Russia, which is detrimental to Ukraine.
- He links the removal of US intelligence data with Putin's operation to put pressure on Kursk, suggesting a coordinated effort and raising concerns about potential leaks of US intelligence to Russia.
- Jonathan posits that Trump might be working directly with Putin to achieve Russia's maximalist goals, noting similar rhetoric from figures like Rubio.
Mark Rutte's Statement on Ukraine's NATO Membership and NATO's Deterrence Power
🎦 07:28-08:31⏩
- Jonathan discusses Mark Rutte's statement that Ukrainian NATO membership is "off the table," another key Russian demand.
- He views this as potentially allowing Putin to claim a hollow victory for his people.
- Jonathan argues that NATO is a "zombie organisation" lacking deterrence power and that Ukrainian membership wouldn't provide genuine security guarantees.
- He believes Putin is willing to test NATO to "absolute destruction".
Alternatives to NATO Membership for Ukraine's Security
🎦 08:31-08:44⏩
- Jonathan suggests that Ukraine's security relies more on alliances with countries like Britain and France, rather than NATO membership.
- He proposes the acquisition of a nuclear umbrella for European democracies as a more effective security measure for Ukraine than NATO membership.
NATO as a Zombie Organisation and Mark Rutte's Weakness
🎦 08:44-09:11⏩
- Jonathan reiterates his view of NATO as a "zombie organisation," suggesting Mark Rutte's stance reflects NATO's weakness and inability to genuinely aid Ukraine.
- He believes Rutte, as a politician and bureaucrat, prioritises the status and prestige associated with NATO over decisive action.
Concerns over Trump's Influence on Rutte and US-German Relations
🎦 09:11-10:05⏩
- Jonathan notes German voices criticising Rutte and advocating for normalising relations with Russia, indicating a concerning shift in stance.
- He describes this as a "full-on Trump positioning" and expresses sadness at the White House joking about annexing Greenland.
- Jonathan speculates that Rutte's changed position is due to pressure from Donald Trump, fearing NATO's potential collapse if Rutte defies Trump's demands.
- He expresses being "flabbergasted" by Trump's statement and Rutte's subsequent public announcement.
Irina's Perspective on the Disturbing News and Key Russian Demands
🎦 10:05-11:22⏩
- Jonathan asks Irina for her perspective on these disturbing developments.
- Irina confirms it is disturbing and refers to a New York Times article detailing Russian demands beyond just NATO membership.
- She highlights the most critical demand for Ukraine is the reduction of its army personnel.
- Irina agrees that NATO membership isn't a guarantee but emphasises Ukraine's reliance on its own troops.
- She expresses hope Ukraine will not agree to army cuts.
- Another critical demand is a 30-day pause with no rearming of Ukraine, cutting them off from allies and logistics, which Irina believes Ukraine cannot agree to.
Putin's Intentions Behind Demands and Potential Restart of Hostilities
🎦 11:22-11:34⏩
- Jonathan agrees that the demands regarding army reduction and the 30-day pause are designed to weaken Ukraine for a potential restart of hostilities after the pause.
- He suspects Putin is gauging internal reactions and considering the economic impact of ending the war.
- Jonathan believes Putin cannot fully end the war due to Russia's war economy and potential economic shock.
Sanctions and Germany's Debt Break Decision
🎦 11:34-12:41⏩
- Irina stresses Ukraine must not disarm and mentions another Russian demand: lifting current sanctions within 30 days.
- Jonathan and Irina agree that sanctions should not be lifted until stolen children are returned and reparations are paid.
- Jonathan shares positive news: Germany's CDU, SPD, and Greens have agreed to release the debt break, allowing significant borrowing to aid Ukraine and boost their own defence spending.
- He believes Rutte's shift is due to Trump's pressure and the threat of the US leaving NATO.
NATO's Zombie Status and Need for European Action
🎦 12:41-15:09⏩
- Jonathan reiterates his view of NATO as a "zombie organisation," unable to provide real deterrence and potentially hindering effective action in the new world order.
- He believes Rutte, as NATO Secretary General, is forced to comply with Trump's demands to prevent NATO's collapse.
- Jonathan expresses concern about NATO's bureaucratic inertia and its hindrance to necessary actions, advocating for a retooling or replacement of NATO with a more action-oriented structure.
- He criticises Rutte for not taking a stronger stance and re-evaluating NATO's purpose.
US Isolationism and Expansionism: A Geopolitical Chess Game
🎦 15:09-17:00⏩
- Jonathan references a conversation with Edward Hunter Christie about the geopolitical "game of chess" and the changing world order.
- He describes the US as exhibiting both expansionist and isolationist tendencies simultaneously.
- The US aims for self-sufficiency and isolation, leading to interest in acquiring resources from Canada, Greenland and potentially Panama.
- This approach involves a shift from cooperative trade to a more imperialistic approach of seizing resources and control.
Trump's "Old School Imperialism" and Reagan's View on Trade
🎦 17:00-19:38⏩
- Jonathan characterises Trump's approach as "old school imperialism" and contrasts it with Reagan's views.
- He recalls Reagan's understanding of American power being driven by international trade, free markets, and alliances, and his opposition to tariffs.
- Reagan understood that tariffs, while seemingly beneficial in the short term, would lead to long-term disaster, similar to the Wall Street Crash.
- Jonathan argues that Trump's policies are leading the US towards a 1930s-style depression.
Globalism, US Self-Sufficiency and Potential Economic Depression
🎦 19:38-21:01⏩
- Jonathan discusses how "globalism" has become a pejorative term, while smaller countries rely on it.
- He contrasts the US's potential for self-sufficient empire-building with European nations' need for cooperation and alliances like the EU to compete with imperial powers.
- He suggests Trump's five-year plan for US self-sufficiency might involve a Great Depression as a short-term cost for long-term gains.
- The aim is a self-sufficient US empire, less reliant on global interaction, except for seizing needed resources.
Internal Conflicts in US Government and Resistance to Trump's Policies
🎦 21:01-22:40⏩
- Jonathan anticipates a fight within the US government between globalist, multinational corporations and those aligned with Trump's isolationist vision.
- He hopes companies like Apple and Google will resist Trump's policies, as they rely on global operations.
- However, he notes the capitulation of tech billionaires like Musk and Thiel to Trump's chaotic agenda, expressing limited hope for resistance from the tech sector.
- Jonathan expresses concern about potential coercion of Google and YouTube, platforms crucial for broadcasting dissenting voices.
Potential Public Backlash and Authoritarian Drift in the US
🎦 22:40-24:49⏩
- Jonathan predicts potential public upset due to job losses, inflation, and pension losses linked to stock market decline, stemming from Trump's policies.
- He foresees resentment towards billionaires and a populist movement against oligarchy.
- Jonathan notes the Democrats' potential to rally a discontent populace if they can organise effectively.
- He raises concerns about authoritarian policies being rolled out, infringing on freedom of speech and moving the US towards authoritarianism.
- He notes the Republican party's shift from traditional values of freedom to radical populism, isolationism, and authoritarian tendencies.
Irina's Surreal Perspective and Fear of Global Change
🎦 24:49-26:13⏩
- Irina expresses surreal feelings about the situation in the US and its potential global impact.
- She fears long-term changes, possibly leading to a "second French Revolution" and significant global shifts.
- Irina contrasts Russia's "smart" approach with America's "polarizing" actions, which she believes favour the wealthy.
- She questions how such a situation can occur in the 21st century and anticipates potential public rebellion in the US.
Potential for US Checks and Balances and Democratic Resistance
🎦 26:13-27:28⏩
- Jonathan believes the US still has checks and balances that might kick in to counter authoritarian trends, although their success is uncertain.
- He mentions figures like Bernie Sanders and Tim Walz as examples of Democrats stepping up to resist.
- He notes the absence of vocal opposition from figures like Kamala Harris, while Ocasio-Cortez is actively vocal.
- There's discussion of Ocasio-Cortez potentially challenging Chuck Schumer for his Senate position due to his perceived weakness in opposing Republican budget measures.
Democratic Party Dynamics and Potential Leaders
🎦 27:28-29:03⏩
- Jonathan explains the context of Chuck Schumer's vote on the budget and the criticism from Ocasio-Cortez, leading to calls for her to "primary" Schumer.
- He highlights Bernie Sanders' massive movement and large public gatherings, indicating potential for populist resistance.
- Jonathan suggests Chris Murphy as a potential Democrat nominee for president, viewing him as appealing to centrists.
NATO's Ambiguity and Potential New European Security Arrangements
🎦 29:03-30:33⏩
- Jonathan references a conversation with Congressman Frank Orkin-Kloss, who criticised NATO's ambiguous stance on Ukraine and Georgia membership in the 2000s.
- Orkin-Kloss argued NATO should have either committed to membership or been upfront about not offering it.
- Jonathan agrees, suggesting clearer stance might have led to alternative support mechanisms for Ukraine outside of NATO's "delusional la-la land".
- He believes Rutte's statement signals NATO's diminished role, prompting Britain and France to consider new European security arrangements independent of the US and NATO.
Ukraine's Role as a Bastion of Freedom and Democratic Values
🎦 30:33-32:36⏩
- Jonathan reflects on the irony of Ukraine, historically suppressed by autocratic neighbours, now being at the forefront of world freedom.
- He describes Ukraine as a "rock" standing against a rising tide of autocracy, central to global freedom.
- Irina agrees, noting the unexpected nature of Ukraine's prominent role and how "freedom" and "democracy" were traditionally associated with America in Ukrainian consciousness, especially compared to the USSR.
- She describes American values as an ideal for Ukrainians, always fighting for freedom and democracy amidst struggles.
Historical Parallels and Concerns about Regression
🎦 32:36-34:47⏩
- Jonathan draws a parallel to the Dark Ages, where Irish monks preserved civilization when Europe was engulfed in darkness, questioning if Ukraine is playing a similar role now.
- He acknowledges potential revisionist history but highlights the feeling of regression after decades of perceived progress.
- Jonathan expresses concern that the US's potential turn towards authoritarianism could lead to a significant global downturn.
- He stresses the difficulty of regaining democracy once lost and expresses a hope that the US will not fail, but acknowledges the real possibility.
- He emphasizes the need for Europe to fight for democracy, not taking it for granted, as its hold is fragile.
Fragility of Society and Rise of Complacent Oligarchy
🎦 34:47-37:16⏩
- Jonathan uses the London riots as an example of how quickly society can break down, referencing his book "Survival of the Fittest" exploring societal fragility.
- He argues that societal institutions are less robust than assumed, particularly in times of peace and complacency.
- The "soft period" since the 1990s has allowed a "complacent oligarchy" to emerge, forgetting governance's role in reducing power and wealth concentration.
- He criticises the vast wealth accumulation of "gazillionaires" in America, not reinvested in the economy or education.
- Jonathan argues the role of government should be to erode monopolies and oligarchic influence, crucial for democratic processes and media narratives.
Ukraine's Maidan Revolution and US Oligarchy Challenges
🎦 37:16-39:23⏩
- Jonathan highlights Ukraine's Maidan revolution as an attempt to tackle oligarchic influence and nepotism, relevant to the US situation.
- Irina discusses the challenges of countering oligarchy in the US due to its size and geographically distributed population, unlike Ukraine where protests could concentrate in Kyiv.
- She notes the diversity of opinions and environments across US states, making unified action harder compared to Ukraine's Maidan.
- Irina questions what Americans can do to counter the growth of oligarchy and wealthy individuals in power.
Lack of Focus in US Democratic Party and Need for a Populist Leader
🎦 39:23-40:25⏩
- Jonathan identifies a lack of focus and leadership within the Democratic party as a key problem in the US.
- He argues for the need for a charismatic, popular leader to rally working-class people against oligarchy, carrying a strong narrative.
- He observes a narrative emerging against billionaire oligarchs, noting Elon Musk's negative favourability ratings.
- Jonathan suggests Chris Murphy as a potential leader who can appeal to centrists and build a narrative around billionaires taking power and wealth.
Need for Democratic Propaganda and Populist Counter-Narrative
🎦 40:25-41:43⏩
- Jonathan points out the Republican advantage of having Fox News as a unified propaganda outlet, lacking in the Democratic party despite MSNBC.
- He suggests Democrats need to coalesce around a leader, an idea, and a platform, and mobilize people like Bernie Sanders.
- He proposes Bernie Sanders as a potential VP, arguing his policies are popular and can counter right-wing populism with a "true" populism focused on anti-elitism.
Trump's Populism vs. True Anti-Elitism and Republican Party Split
🎦 41:43-44:39⏩
- Jonathan differentiates Trump's "swamp monster" populism, which empowers elites, from a true anti-elitist populism that Bernie Sanders represents.
- He suggests creating a new Republican party to split the conservative vote and peel away traditional Republicans disgusted by Trump.
- This strategy aims to ensure a Democrat victory by splitting the Republican vote, a long-term plan to defeat MAGA Republicans and rebuild a stable two-party system.
Long-Term Strategy of Republican Party Split and Organised Resistance
🎦 44:39-46:06⏩
- Jonathan clarifies that splitting the Republican party is a long-term strategy, requiring traditional Republicans to accept electoral losses to defeat MAGA in the long run.
- He emphasises the need for organised resistance from the conservative side, requiring them to essentially "bury" their current party and rebuild.
- He uses the metaphor of burning club memberships to represent the need for traditional Republicans to break away from the MAGA-dominated GOP.
Raffle for Drones for Ukraine and Fundraiser Success
🎦 46:06-48:03⏩
- Jonathan and Irina transition to discussing the raffle for Drones for Ukraine, confirming they will proceed with it.
- Irina announces the fundraiser has exceeded its target, raising enough for almost another drone, describing it as "very exciting".
- They confirm the raffle prize includes a signed flag from the Babylon 125th Brigade, merch from Dzyga's Paw, and handmade chocolate from Lviv.
- Irina shares that the vendor from the previous ATB fundraiser, Paul E. from Sweden, was happy to be contacted and has provided a message to be signed on the flag.
Logistics of Raffle Prize and Future Silicon Curtain Patches
🎦 48:03-49:50⏩
- Irina mentions getting the signed flag to Paul E. and discusses shipping arrangements.
- Jonathan confirms they will organise distribution of Silicon Curtain patches for donors over $100, but commissioning and shipping will take time.
- They agree to proceed with shipping the raffle prize immediately and organise patch distribution separately.
- Irina checks donation totals to ensure accuracy before running the raffle.
Raffle Draw and Winner Announcement
🎦 49:50-53:17⏩
- Irina reminds viewers about the raffle prize: a signed flag from the Babylon Brigade, Dzyga's Paw merch, and Lviv chocolate.
- She confirms the total tickets at 575 and shows top donors, including two anonymous $1000 donations.
- Irina runs the random winner selection and announces the winner is "anonymous" with an associated email address.
- They congratulate the anonymous winner, who donated $200 and received 10 tickets.
- They note that smaller donations can also win and will contact the winner via email to arrange prize delivery.
Follow-up with Drone Units and Potential Donor-Soldier Contact
🎦 53:17-55:02⏩
- Jonathan expresses his desire to get a signed flag himself.
- Irina suggests getting Jonathan a flag for his fundraising efforts.
- They discuss contacting drone units who receive drones from fundraisers to understand their impact and potentially facilitate direct contact between donors and soldiers.
- They plan to label drones with donor information and encourage sharing videos of drone operations with donors.
- Irina suggests contacting drone units to see if they have English speakers willing to communicate directly with donors.
Importance of Direct Contact and Countering Proxy War Narrative
🎦 55:02-57:01⏩
- Jonathan agrees to potentially sharing clips and interviews with soldiers on his channel, respecting their security and permissions.
- Irina highlights the importance of direct contact to demonstrate the real impact of donations and counter the narrative of a "proxy war".
- She notes that Ukrainian soldiers are often surprised and impressed by international support, especially from non-Ukrainians, reinforcing the idea that Ukrainians are fighting for their own values.
- Jonathan emphasizes that Ukrainian resistance is driven by their values, not just external influence.
Clarification on Trump-Putin Conversation and US Intelligence Sources
🎦 57:01-58:06⏩
- Jonathan shifts back to news, clarifying that Trump's conversation was actually with billionaire Stephen Witkoff, not Putin directly.
- He cites Julia Davis from Russian Media Monitor, stating Trump's intelligence briefings, including claims about Kursk, are coming from pro-Russian sources like Tulsi Gabbard, RT, Sputnik and Witkoff.
- He reiterates the outrageous nature of Trump's claims about surrounded Ukrainian troops and his reliance on biased information sources.
Putin's Manipulation of US Negotiators and Removal of General Kellogg
🎦 58:06-59:15⏩
- Jonathan believes Putin is manipulating US negotiators like Witkoff, who was kept waiting for eight hours before meeting Putin.
- He highlights that General Kellogg, considered the only person in Trump's team with some understanding of the Ukraine situation, has been removed at the Kremlin's request.
- Putin requested Kellogg's removal because he was seen as "too close to Ukraine", and the US complied, demonstrating Russia's influence.
Trump's Alignment with Russian Interests and Explanations for His Actions
- Jonathan mentions speaking with Zarina Zabriskie about Trump's connections to the Kremlin, noting his actions align perfectly with Russian interests.
- He questions whether Trump is compromised or simply acting out of "insanity".
- He considers explanations for Trump's behaviour: inexperience, ignorance, lack of strategic thinking, and being surrounded by "idiots and yes men".
Bolton's "Occam's Razor" and Trump's Ineptitude
- Jonathan references John Bolton's "Occam's razor" explanation: Trump's actions might be due to "sheer idiocy and narcissism" rather than malicious intent.
- He also mentions "Hanlon's Razor", suggesting not attributing to malice what can be explained by ineptitude.
- Bolton and others have highlighted Trump's lack of knowledge and understanding of global affairs, citing examples like his confusion about Spain's BRICS membership.
- Jonathan emphasizes Trump's lack of knowledge and strategic thinking in the context of global power struggles.
Surreal and Farce-like Nature of Current Geopolitics
- Jonathan describes the situation as "surreal" and "extraordinary," almost unbelievable if not for its deadly seriousness.
- He jokes that the current political reality is so farcical that it surpasses satire, referencing Armando Iannucci's comedy "Death of Stalin".
- Even satire struggles to exaggerate reality, as actual events are often more absurd than fiction.
Satire vs. Reality and Potential Outcomes of Trump's Policies
- Jonathan notes comedians struggling with satire as reality becomes too ridiculous.
- He highlights the difficulty in distinguishing satire from reality in the current political climate, using the example of Trump working with Putin.
- He anticipates serious consequences and "algebraic tragedy" if Trump follows the Russian playbook and maximalist demands.
- Jonathan suggests even figures like Rubio might eventually push back against extreme concessions to Russia.
Ceasefire Concerns and Ukrainian Resolve to Continue Military Aid
- Jonathan expresses concern that a ceasefire might be used by Russia to regroup and continue provocations, based on historical patterns.
- Irina shares her team's strategic planning session, where they unanimously agreed to continue focusing on military aid despite ceasefire possibilities.
- They believe any ceasefire will be temporary and rearming and military technology development will remain crucial for Ukraine's long-term security.
- Irina emphasises the team's conviction that ceasefire under current conditions won't bring lasting peace.
European Unity and Potential for Independent Support for Ukraine
- Jonathan expresses hope that Britain, France, and Germany are not "taken in" by Russian games, noting a potentially stronger German leadership.
- He believes these three countries, along with the Netherlands, Nordics, and Baltics, understand the situation and will continue supporting Ukraine regardless of Trump's actions.
- Even if the US reduces military aid, Jonathan suggests Europe might be able to independently rearm Ukraine, especially through investments in Ukraine's own defence industry.
- He highlights Germany and Denmark's investment in Ukrainian shell production and Ukraine's drone innovation efforts.
Ukraine's Drone Manufacturing Potential and Focus on European Markets
- Irina confirms intense discussions post-Munich Security Conference about drone production and European countries' focus on moving away from Chinese suppliers.
- She points out a potential challenge: Ukrainian manufacturers focusing on cheap and fast production might not meet European quality and non-Chinese component requirements.
- Irina raises the question of Ukrainian drone manufacturers targeting European and American markets, requiring a shift in focus towards higher quality and non-Chinese components.
- She mentions big defence companies entering Ukraine, highlighting the need for Ukrainians to protect their technology and intellectual property to remain competitive long-term.
Ukraine's Engineering Expertise and Potential for Western Collaboration
- Jonathan highlights Ukraine's strong engineering and IT sectors, combined with combat experience, creating a valuable resource for Western manufacturers.
- He suggests Western companies will want to establish production and R&D in Ukraine due to its skilled workforce and experience.
- Irina confirms universities are launching engineering and drone-specific programs, noting Ukraine's unique scale of drone expertise development, even beyond formal institutions.
- She emphasizes the grassroots nature of Ukrainian drone development, with numerous small teams and hobby groups contributing significantly.
- Irina believes Ukraine's expertise will attract Western companies, as is already happening.
Mitch Mazerolle's Question on Domestic Drone Motor Production
- Jonathan thanks Mark Biskey for a generous Super Chat and brings up Mitch Mazerolle's question about domestic drone motor production in Ukraine.
- Mitch asks if drone motors are now being domestically produced in Ukraine to reduce reliance on Chinese suppliers.
- Irina responds that she needs to research this specifically, but has seen motors with Ukrainian labels alongside Chinese-labelled motors.
- She mentions concerns about relabeling Chinese motors as Ukrainian-made, making it difficult to verify domestic production conclusively.
- While uncertain about motors, Irina is confident in Ukraine's production of advanced drone components like cameras and thermal cameras, expressing hope for domestic motor production as well.
Fundraiser Promotion and Gratitude to Donors
- Jonathan thanks Mitch Mazerolle, Mark Biskey, and Johnny Christensen for their Super Chats and Stickers.
- Mitch Mazerolle requests highlighting ongoing fundraisers.
- Jonathan promotes Jonathan Fink's ongoing Dzyga's Paw fundraiser, which has exceeded its target and aims for an extra drone.
- He also promotes his NAFO fundraiser with Roman Trokometz and Rick, the Ukrainian, which is 50% complete.
- Jonathan mentions the successful completion of the previous JigasPaw fundraiser and upcoming Calf Ukraine and 69th Sniffing Brigade campaigns.
Future Pro-Ukraine Events and Interview with Vitaly Portnikov
- Jonathan promotes upcoming pro-Ukraine events, with announcements coming soon regarding dates and venues, thanking supporters for their contributions.
- Irina expresses her support for the events after attending a post-event dinner and listening to recordings.
- Jonathan announces an upcoming interview with Vitaly Portnikov, recorded face-to-face in Kyiv, focusing on the US shift towards a transactional foreign policy.
- He recommends the interview, despite Russian subtitles, for its valuable insights, планируя to release it on Sunday, following tomorrow's video of their Dzyga's Paw visit.
Wrap up and Final Thanks
- Jonathan begins to wrap up the stream, thanking everyone for their support and generosity.
- He thanks Richard Bennett for gifting ACP Geopolitics memberships and acknowledges all super chatters.
- Jonathan expresses amazement at the success of the Jigar's Paw fundraiser and praises Irina and her team for their "awesome" work.
- He asks viewers to applaud Irina and her husband Dinkar, recognizing their inspiring efforts.
- Irina thanks everyone for their support and community involvement, expressing appreciation for the community vibe.
- Jonathan and Irina thank the audience and co-hosts, ending the live stream and looking forward to future collaborations.
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