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Ukraine War Live Update w/ Jonathan Fink & Iryna from Dzyga's Paw - Raffle!

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Table of Contents 📖

Topic IDTopic TitleTimestamp
1Hello Team00:00-00:39
2Introduction of Irina from Dzyga's Paw and Drones for Ukraine Raffle00:39-03:10
3Donald Trump's Pro-Russian Propaganda Statement on Ukraine03:10-05:32
4Analysis of Trump's Manipulation by Putin and Potential US Policy Shift05:32-07:28
5Mark Rutte's Statement on Ukraine's NATO Membership and NATO's Deterrence Power07:28-08:31
6Alternatives to NATO Membership for Ukraine's Security08:31-08:44
7NATO as a Zombie Organisation and Mark Rutte's Weakness08:44-09:11
8Concerns over Trump's Influence on Rutte and US-German Relations09:11-10:05
9Irina's Perspective on the Disturbing News and Key Russian Demands10:05-11:22
10Putin's Intentions Behind Demands and Potential Restart of Hostilities11:22-11:34
11Sanctions and Germany's Debt Break Decision11:34-12:41
12NATO's Zombie Status and Need for European Action12:41-15:09
13US Isolationism and Expansionism: A Geopolitical Chess Game15:09-17:00
14Trump's "Old School Imperialism" and Reagan's View on Trade17:00-19:38
15Globalism, US Self-Sufficiency and Potential Economic Depression19:38-21:01
16Internal Conflicts in US Government and Resistance to Trump's Policies21:01-22:40
17Potential Public Backlash and Authoritarian Drift in the US22:40-24:49
18Irina's Surreal Perspective and Fear of Global Change24:49-26:13
19Potential for US Checks and Balances and Democratic Resistance26:13-27:28
20Democratic Party Dynamics and Potential Leaders27:28-29:03
21NATO's Ambiguity and Potential New European Security Arrangements29:03-30:33
22Ukraine's Role as a Bastion of Freedom and Democratic Values30:33-32:36
23Historical Parallels and Concerns about Regression32:36-34:47
24Fragility of Society and Rise of Complacent Oligarchy34:47-37:16
25Ukraine's Maidan Revolution and US Oligarchy Challenges37:16-39:23
26Lack of Focus in US Democratic Party and Need for a Populist Leader39:23-40:25
27Need for Democratic Propaganda and Populist Counter-Narrative40:25-41:43
28Trump's Populism vs. True Anti-Elitism and Republican Party Split41:43-44:39
29Long-Term Strategy of Republican Party Split and Organised Resistance44:39-46:06
30Raffle for Drones for Ukraine and Fundraiser Success46:06-48:03
31Logistics of Raffle Prize and Future Silicon Curtain Patches48:03-49:50
32Raffle Draw and Winner Announcement49:50-53:17
33Follow-up with Drone Units and Potential Donor-Soldier Contact53:17-55:02
34Importance of Direct Contact and Countering Proxy War Narrative55:02-57:01
35Clarification on Trump-Putin Conversation and US Intelligence Sources57:01-58:06
36Putin's Manipulation of US Negotiators and Removal of General Kellogg58:06-59:15
37Trump's Alignment with Russian Interests and Explanations for His Actions59:15-01:00:30
38Bolton's "Occam's Razor" and Trump's Ineptitude01:00:30-01:01:44
39Surreal and Farce-like Nature of Current Geopolitics01:01:44-01:02:43
40Satire vs. Reality and Potential Outcomes of Trump's Policies01:02:43-01:04:22
41Ceasefire Concerns and Ukrainian Resolve to Continue Military Aid01:04:22-01:07:04
42European Unity and Potential for Independent Support for Ukraine01:07:04-01:08:35
43Ukraine's Drone Manufacturing Potential and Focus on European Markets01:08:35-01:11:28
44Ukraine's Engineering Expertise and Potential for Western Collaboration01:11:28-01:13:56
45Mitch Mazerolle's Question on Domestic Drone Motor Production01:13:56-01:35:05
46Fundraiser Promotion and Gratitude to Donors01:35:05-01:38:04
47Future Pro-Ukraine Events and Interview with Vitaly Portnikov01:38:04-01:40:02
48Wrap up and Final Thanks01:40:02-01:41:54

"NATO is a zombie organization. It has no deterrence power. And Putin is minded to test NATO to absolute destruction. I don't think Ukraine in or out of NATO is going to give it the security guarantees that it needs, the genuine, hard-edged security guarantees it needs."

Hello Team

🎦 00:00-00:39

  • Jonathan Fink welcomes viewers to the first live stream hosted by him.
  • He is joined by Jonathan MS Pearce and Iryna from Dzyga's Paw.
  • Jonathan Fink mentions he has invested in new software for live streaming.
  • Jonathan MS Pearce expresses feeling strange as he is not in control of the stream!


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Introduction of Iryna from Dzyga's Paw and Drones for Ukraine Raffle

🎦 00:39-03:10

  • Jonathan Fink introduces Iryna from Dzyga's Paw, noting Jonathan MS Pearce has completed his fundraising target while Jonathan Fink has a few days left.
  • They are holding a raffle to encourage donations to Dzyga's Paw, with the aim of purchasing nitron drones. Three drones have already been funded, and they hope to fund more.
  • A video featuring Jonathan and Jonathan visiting Dzyga's Paw in Lviv will be released tomorrow.
  • They emphasise the continued need for drones in Ukraine, even with peace talks, for Ukrainian resilience.
  • They plan to discuss the "phony peace" and recent news headlines, before conducting the raffle later in the stream.


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Donald Trump's Pro-Russian Propaganda Statement on Ukraine

🎦 03:10-05:32

  • Jonathan MS Pearce introduces the topic of Donald Trump's recent statements, calling it "phony peace".
  • He highlights a "True Social" statement from Trump regarding a conversation with Putin, which Jonathan describes as regurgitating Russian propaganda.
  • Jonathan quotes Julian Röpke, a German journalist, who calls Trump's statement "100% Russian propaganda" and refutes Trump's claims about surrounded Ukrainian troops.
  • Trump's statement claims "thousands of Ukrainian troops are completely surrounded" and that he has "strongly requested to President Putin that their lives be spared".
  • Jonathan questions the validity of Trump's claims, stating he is unaware of any analysts reporting Ukrainian troops being completely surrounded, suggesting Putin is manipulating Trump.


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Analysis of Trump's Manipulation by Putin and Potential US Policy Shift

🎦 05:32-07:28

  • Jonathan expresses concern that Trump's manipulation by Putin will negatively impact negotiations and Ukraine's interests.
  • He suggests Trump's options are either to go hard on Russia or to adopt Russia's demands and punish Ukraine for not agreeing to a ceasefire on Russia's maximalist terms.
  • Jonathan fears Trump is siding with Russia, which is detrimental to Ukraine.
  • He links the removal of US intelligence data with Putin's operation to put pressure on Kursk, suggesting a coordinated effort and raising concerns about potential leaks of US intelligence to Russia.
  • Jonathan posits that Trump might be working directly with Putin to achieve Russia's maximalist goals, noting similar rhetoric from figures like Rubio.


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Mark Rutte's Statement on Ukraine's NATO Membership and NATO's Deterrence Power

🎦 07:28-08:31

  • Jonathan discusses Mark Rutte's statement that Ukrainian NATO membership is "off the table," another key Russian demand.
  • He views this as potentially allowing Putin to claim a hollow victory for his people.
  • Jonathan argues that NATO is a "zombie organisation" lacking deterrence power and that Ukrainian membership wouldn't provide genuine security guarantees.
  • He believes Putin is willing to test NATO to "absolute destruction".


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Alternatives to NATO Membership for Ukraine's Security

🎦 08:31-08:44

  • Jonathan suggests that Ukraine's security relies more on alliances with countries like Britain and France, rather than NATO membership.
  • He proposes the acquisition of a nuclear umbrella for European democracies as a more effective security measure for Ukraine than NATO membership.


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NATO as a Zombie Organisation and Mark Rutte's Weakness

🎦 08:44-09:11

  • Jonathan reiterates his view of NATO as a "zombie organisation," suggesting Mark Rutte's stance reflects NATO's weakness and inability to genuinely aid Ukraine.
  • He believes Rutte, as a politician and bureaucrat, prioritises the status and prestige associated with NATO over decisive action.


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Concerns over Trump's Influence on Rutte and US-German Relations

🎦 09:11-10:05

  • Jonathan notes German voices criticising Rutte and advocating for normalising relations with Russia, indicating a concerning shift in stance.
  • He describes this as a "full-on Trump positioning" and expresses sadness at the White House joking about annexing Greenland.
  • Jonathan speculates that Rutte's changed position is due to pressure from Donald Trump, fearing NATO's potential collapse if Rutte defies Trump's demands.
  • He expresses being "flabbergasted" by Trump's statement and Rutte's subsequent public announcement.


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Irina's Perspective on the Disturbing News and Key Russian Demands

🎦 10:05-11:22

  • Jonathan asks Irina for her perspective on these disturbing developments.
  • Irina confirms it is disturbing and refers to a New York Times article detailing Russian demands beyond just NATO membership.
  • She highlights the most critical demand for Ukraine is the reduction of its army personnel.
  • Irina agrees that NATO membership isn't a guarantee but emphasises Ukraine's reliance on its own troops.
  • She expresses hope Ukraine will not agree to army cuts.
  • Another critical demand is a 30-day pause with no rearming of Ukraine, cutting them off from allies and logistics, which Irina believes Ukraine cannot agree to.


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Putin's Intentions Behind Demands and Potential Restart of Hostilities

🎦 11:22-11:34

  • Jonathan agrees that the demands regarding army reduction and the 30-day pause are designed to weaken Ukraine for a potential restart of hostilities after the pause.
  • He suspects Putin is gauging internal reactions and considering the economic impact of ending the war.
  • Jonathan believes Putin cannot fully end the war due to Russia's war economy and potential economic shock.


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Sanctions and Germany's Debt Break Decision

🎦 11:34-12:41

  • Irina stresses Ukraine must not disarm and mentions another Russian demand: lifting current sanctions within 30 days.
  • Jonathan and Irina agree that sanctions should not be lifted until stolen children are returned and reparations are paid.
  • Jonathan shares positive news: Germany's CDU, SPD, and Greens have agreed to release the debt break, allowing significant borrowing to aid Ukraine and boost their own defence spending.
  • He believes Rutte's shift is due to Trump's pressure and the threat of the US leaving NATO.


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NATO's Zombie Status and Need for European Action

🎦 12:41-15:09

  • Jonathan reiterates his view of NATO as a "zombie organisation," unable to provide real deterrence and potentially hindering effective action in the new world order.
  • He believes Rutte, as NATO Secretary General, is forced to comply with Trump's demands to prevent NATO's collapse.
  • Jonathan expresses concern about NATO's bureaucratic inertia and its hindrance to necessary actions, advocating for a retooling or replacement of NATO with a more action-oriented structure.
  • He criticises Rutte for not taking a stronger stance and re-evaluating NATO's purpose.


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US Isolationism and Expansionism: A Geopolitical Chess Game

🎦 15:09-17:00

  • Jonathan references a conversation with Edward Hunter Christie about the geopolitical "game of chess" and the changing world order.
  • He describes the US as exhibiting both expansionist and isolationist tendencies simultaneously.
  • The US aims for self-sufficiency and isolation, leading to interest in acquiring resources from Canada, Greenland and potentially Panama.
  • This approach involves a shift from cooperative trade to a more imperialistic approach of seizing resources and control.


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Trump's "Old School Imperialism" and Reagan's View on Trade

🎦 17:00-19:38

  • Jonathan characterises Trump's approach as "old school imperialism" and contrasts it with Reagan's views.
  • He recalls Reagan's understanding of American power being driven by international trade, free markets, and alliances, and his opposition to tariffs.
  • Reagan understood that tariffs, while seemingly beneficial in the short term, would lead to long-term disaster, similar to the Wall Street Crash.
  • Jonathan argues that Trump's policies are leading the US towards a 1930s-style depression.


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Globalism, US Self-Sufficiency and Potential Economic Depression

🎦 19:38-21:01

  • Jonathan discusses how "globalism" has become a pejorative term, while smaller countries rely on it.
  • He contrasts the US's potential for self-sufficient empire-building with European nations' need for cooperation and alliances like the EU to compete with imperial powers.
  • He suggests Trump's five-year plan for US self-sufficiency might involve a Great Depression as a short-term cost for long-term gains.
  • The aim is a self-sufficient US empire, less reliant on global interaction, except for seizing needed resources.


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Internal Conflicts in US Government and Resistance to Trump's Policies

🎦 21:01-22:40

  • Jonathan anticipates a fight within the US government between globalist, multinational corporations and those aligned with Trump's isolationist vision.
  • He hopes companies like Apple and Google will resist Trump's policies, as they rely on global operations.
  • However, he notes the capitulation of tech billionaires like Musk and Thiel to Trump's chaotic agenda, expressing limited hope for resistance from the tech sector.
  • Jonathan expresses concern about potential coercion of Google and YouTube, platforms crucial for broadcasting dissenting voices.


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Potential Public Backlash and Authoritarian Drift in the US

🎦 22:40-24:49

  • Jonathan predicts potential public upset due to job losses, inflation, and pension losses linked to stock market decline, stemming from Trump's policies.
  • He foresees resentment towards billionaires and a populist movement against oligarchy.
  • Jonathan notes the Democrats' potential to rally a discontent populace if they can organise effectively.
  • He raises concerns about authoritarian policies being rolled out, infringing on freedom of speech and moving the US towards authoritarianism.
  • He notes the Republican party's shift from traditional values of freedom to radical populism, isolationism, and authoritarian tendencies.


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Irina's Surreal Perspective and Fear of Global Change

🎦 24:49-26:13

  • Irina expresses surreal feelings about the situation in the US and its potential global impact.
  • She fears long-term changes, possibly leading to a "second French Revolution" and significant global shifts.
  • Irina contrasts Russia's "smart" approach with America's "polarizing" actions, which she believes favour the wealthy.
  • She questions how such a situation can occur in the 21st century and anticipates potential public rebellion in the US.


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Potential for US Checks and Balances and Democratic Resistance

🎦 26:13-27:28

  • Jonathan believes the US still has checks and balances that might kick in to counter authoritarian trends, although their success is uncertain.
  • He mentions figures like Bernie Sanders and Tim Walz as examples of Democrats stepping up to resist.
  • He notes the absence of vocal opposition from figures like Kamala Harris, while Ocasio-Cortez is actively vocal.
  • There's discussion of Ocasio-Cortez potentially challenging Chuck Schumer for his Senate position due to his perceived weakness in opposing Republican budget measures.


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Democratic Party Dynamics and Potential Leaders

🎦 27:28-29:03

  • Jonathan explains the context of Chuck Schumer's vote on the budget and the criticism from Ocasio-Cortez, leading to calls for her to "primary" Schumer.
  • He highlights Bernie Sanders' massive movement and large public gatherings, indicating potential for populist resistance.
  • Jonathan suggests Chris Murphy as a potential Democrat nominee for president, viewing him as appealing to centrists.


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NATO's Ambiguity and Potential New European Security Arrangements

🎦 29:03-30:33

  • Jonathan references a conversation with Congressman Frank Orkin-Kloss, who criticised NATO's ambiguous stance on Ukraine and Georgia membership in the 2000s.
  • Orkin-Kloss argued NATO should have either committed to membership or been upfront about not offering it.
  • Jonathan agrees, suggesting clearer stance might have led to alternative support mechanisms for Ukraine outside of NATO's "delusional la-la land".
  • He believes Rutte's statement signals NATO's diminished role, prompting Britain and France to consider new European security arrangements independent of the US and NATO.


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Ukraine's Role as a Bastion of Freedom and Democratic Values

🎦 30:33-32:36

  • Jonathan reflects on the irony of Ukraine, historically suppressed by autocratic neighbours, now being at the forefront of world freedom.
  • He describes Ukraine as a "rock" standing against a rising tide of autocracy, central to global freedom.
  • Irina agrees, noting the unexpected nature of Ukraine's prominent role and how "freedom" and "democracy" were traditionally associated with America in Ukrainian consciousness, especially compared to the USSR.
  • She describes American values as an ideal for Ukrainians, always fighting for freedom and democracy amidst struggles.


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Historical Parallels and Concerns about Regression

🎦 32:36-34:47

  • Jonathan draws a parallel to the Dark Ages, where Irish monks preserved civilization when Europe was engulfed in darkness, questioning if Ukraine is playing a similar role now.
  • He acknowledges potential revisionist history but highlights the feeling of regression after decades of perceived progress.
  • Jonathan expresses concern that the US's potential turn towards authoritarianism could lead to a significant global downturn.
  • He stresses the difficulty of regaining democracy once lost and expresses a hope that the US will not fail, but acknowledges the real possibility.
  • He emphasizes the need for Europe to fight for democracy, not taking it for granted, as its hold is fragile.


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Fragility of Society and Rise of Complacent Oligarchy

🎦 34:47-37:16

  • Jonathan uses the London riots as an example of how quickly society can break down, referencing his book "Survival of the Fittest" exploring societal fragility.
  • He argues that societal institutions are less robust than assumed, particularly in times of peace and complacency.
  • The "soft period" since the 1990s has allowed a "complacent oligarchy" to emerge, forgetting governance's role in reducing power and wealth concentration.
  • He criticises the vast wealth accumulation of "gazillionaires" in America, not reinvested in the economy or education.
  • Jonathan argues the role of government should be to erode monopolies and oligarchic influence, crucial for democratic processes and media narratives.


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Ukraine's Maidan Revolution and US Oligarchy Challenges

🎦 37:16-39:23

  • Jonathan highlights Ukraine's Maidan revolution as an attempt to tackle oligarchic influence and nepotism, relevant to the US situation.
  • Irina discusses the challenges of countering oligarchy in the US due to its size and geographically distributed population, unlike Ukraine where protests could concentrate in Kyiv.
  • She notes the diversity of opinions and environments across US states, making unified action harder compared to Ukraine's Maidan.
  • Irina questions what Americans can do to counter the growth of oligarchy and wealthy individuals in power.


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Lack of Focus in US Democratic Party and Need for a Populist Leader

🎦 39:23-40:25

  • Jonathan identifies a lack of focus and leadership within the Democratic party as a key problem in the US.
  • He argues for the need for a charismatic, popular leader to rally working-class people against oligarchy, carrying a strong narrative.
  • He observes a narrative emerging against billionaire oligarchs, noting Elon Musk's negative favourability ratings.
  • Jonathan suggests Chris Murphy as a potential leader who can appeal to centrists and build a narrative around billionaires taking power and wealth.


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Need for Democratic Propaganda and Populist Counter-Narrative

🎦 40:25-41:43

  • Jonathan points out the Republican advantage of having Fox News as a unified propaganda outlet, lacking in the Democratic party despite MSNBC.
  • He suggests Democrats need to coalesce around a leader, an idea, and a platform, and mobilize people like Bernie Sanders.
  • He proposes Bernie Sanders as a potential VP, arguing his policies are popular and can counter right-wing populism with a "true" populism focused on anti-elitism.


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Trump's Populism vs. True Anti-Elitism and Republican Party Split

🎦 41:43-44:39

  • Jonathan differentiates Trump's "swamp monster" populism, which empowers elites, from a true anti-elitist populism that Bernie Sanders represents.
  • He suggests creating a new Republican party to split the conservative vote and peel away traditional Republicans disgusted by Trump.
  • This strategy aims to ensure a Democrat victory by splitting the Republican vote, a long-term plan to defeat MAGA Republicans and rebuild a stable two-party system.


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Long-Term Strategy of Republican Party Split and Organised Resistance

🎦 44:39-46:06

  • Jonathan clarifies that splitting the Republican party is a long-term strategy, requiring traditional Republicans to accept electoral losses to defeat MAGA in the long run.
  • He emphasises the need for organised resistance from the conservative side, requiring them to essentially "bury" their current party and rebuild.
  • He uses the metaphor of burning club memberships to represent the need for traditional Republicans to break away from the MAGA-dominated GOP.


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Raffle for Drones for Ukraine and Fundraiser Success

🎦 46:06-48:03

  • Jonathan and Irina transition to discussing the raffle for Drones for Ukraine, confirming they will proceed with it.
  • Irina announces the fundraiser has exceeded its target, raising enough for almost another drone, describing it as "very exciting".
  • They confirm the raffle prize includes a signed flag from the Babylon 125th Brigade, merch from Dzyga's Paw, and handmade chocolate from Lviv.
  • Irina shares that the vendor from the previous ATB fundraiser, Paul E. from Sweden, was happy to be contacted and has provided a message to be signed on the flag.


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Logistics of Raffle Prize and Future Silicon Curtain Patches

🎦 48:03-49:50

  • Irina mentions getting the signed flag to Paul E. and discusses shipping arrangements.
  • Jonathan confirms they will organise distribution of Silicon Curtain patches for donors over $100, but commissioning and shipping will take time.
  • They agree to proceed with shipping the raffle prize immediately and organise patch distribution separately.
  • Irina checks donation totals to ensure accuracy before running the raffle.


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Raffle Draw and Winner Announcement

🎦 49:50-53:17

  • Irina reminds viewers about the raffle prize: a signed flag from the Babylon Brigade, Dzyga's Paw merch, and Lviv chocolate.
  • She confirms the total tickets at 575 and shows top donors, including two anonymous $1000 donations.
  • Irina runs the random winner selection and announces the winner is "anonymous" with an associated email address.
  • They congratulate the anonymous winner, who donated $200 and received 10 tickets.
  • They note that smaller donations can also win and will contact the winner via email to arrange prize delivery.


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Follow-up with Drone Units and Potential Donor-Soldier Contact

🎦 53:17-55:02

  • Jonathan expresses his desire to get a signed flag himself.
  • Irina suggests getting Jonathan a flag for his fundraising efforts.
  • They discuss contacting drone units who receive drones from fundraisers to understand their impact and potentially facilitate direct contact between donors and soldiers.
  • They plan to label drones with donor information and encourage sharing videos of drone operations with donors.
  • Irina suggests contacting drone units to see if they have English speakers willing to communicate directly with donors.


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Importance of Direct Contact and Countering Proxy War Narrative

🎦 55:02-57:01

  • Jonathan agrees to potentially sharing clips and interviews with soldiers on his channel, respecting their security and permissions.
  • Irina highlights the importance of direct contact to demonstrate the real impact of donations and counter the narrative of a "proxy war".
  • She notes that Ukrainian soldiers are often surprised and impressed by international support, especially from non-Ukrainians, reinforcing the idea that Ukrainians are fighting for their own values.
  • Jonathan emphasizes that Ukrainian resistance is driven by their values, not just external influence.


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Clarification on Trump-Putin Conversation and US Intelligence Sources

🎦 57:01-58:06

  • Jonathan shifts back to news, clarifying that Trump's conversation was actually with billionaire Stephen Witkoff, not Putin directly.
  • He cites Julia Davis from Russian Media Monitor, stating Trump's intelligence briefings, including claims about Kursk, are coming from pro-Russian sources like Tulsi Gabbard, RT, Sputnik and Witkoff.
  • He reiterates the outrageous nature of Trump's claims about surrounded Ukrainian troops and his reliance on biased information sources.


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Putin's Manipulation of US Negotiators and Removal of General Kellogg

🎦 58:06-59:15

  • Jonathan believes Putin is manipulating US negotiators like Witkoff, who was kept waiting for eight hours before meeting Putin.
  • He highlights that General Kellogg, considered the only person in Trump's team with some understanding of the Ukraine situation, has been removed at the Kremlin's request.
  • Putin requested Kellogg's removal because he was seen as "too close to Ukraine", and the US complied, demonstrating Russia's influence.


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Trump's Alignment with Russian Interests and Explanations for His Actions

🎦 59:15-01:00:30

  • Jonathan mentions speaking with Zarina Zabriskie about Trump's connections to the Kremlin, noting his actions align perfectly with Russian interests.
  • He questions whether Trump is compromised or simply acting out of "insanity".
  • He considers explanations for Trump's behaviour: inexperience, ignorance, lack of strategic thinking, and being surrounded by "idiots and yes men".


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Bolton's "Occam's Razor" and Trump's Ineptitude

🎦 01:00:30-01:01:44

  • Jonathan references John Bolton's "Occam's razor" explanation: Trump's actions might be due to "sheer idiocy and narcissism" rather than malicious intent.
  • He also mentions "Hanlon's Razor", suggesting not attributing to malice what can be explained by ineptitude.
  • Bolton and others have highlighted Trump's lack of knowledge and understanding of global affairs, citing examples like his confusion about Spain's BRICS membership.
  • Jonathan emphasizes Trump's lack of knowledge and strategic thinking in the context of global power struggles.


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Surreal and Farce-like Nature of Current Geopolitics

🎦 01:01:44-01:02:43

  • Jonathan describes the situation as "surreal" and "extraordinary," almost unbelievable if not for its deadly seriousness.
  • He jokes that the current political reality is so farcical that it surpasses satire, referencing Armando Iannucci's comedy "Death of Stalin".
  • Even satire struggles to exaggerate reality, as actual events are often more absurd than fiction.


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Satire vs. Reality and Potential Outcomes of Trump's Policies

🎦 01:02:43-01:04:22

  • Jonathan notes comedians struggling with satire as reality becomes too ridiculous.
  • He highlights the difficulty in distinguishing satire from reality in the current political climate, using the example of Trump working with Putin.
  • He anticipates serious consequences and "algebraic tragedy" if Trump follows the Russian playbook and maximalist demands.
  • Jonathan suggests even figures like Rubio might eventually push back against extreme concessions to Russia.


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Ceasefire Concerns and Ukrainian Resolve to Continue Military Aid

🎦 01:04:22-01:07:04

  • Jonathan expresses concern that a ceasefire might be used by Russia to regroup and continue provocations, based on historical patterns.
  • Irina shares her team's strategic planning session, where they unanimously agreed to continue focusing on military aid despite ceasefire possibilities.
  • They believe any ceasefire will be temporary and rearming and military technology development will remain crucial for Ukraine's long-term security.
  • Irina emphasises the team's conviction that ceasefire under current conditions won't bring lasting peace.


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European Unity and Potential for Independent Support for Ukraine

🎦 01:07:04-01:08:35

  • Jonathan expresses hope that Britain, France, and Germany are not "taken in" by Russian games, noting a potentially stronger German leadership.
  • He believes these three countries, along with the Netherlands, Nordics, and Baltics, understand the situation and will continue supporting Ukraine regardless of Trump's actions.
  • Even if the US reduces military aid, Jonathan suggests Europe might be able to independently rearm Ukraine, especially through investments in Ukraine's own defence industry.
  • He highlights Germany and Denmark's investment in Ukrainian shell production and Ukraine's drone innovation efforts.


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Ukraine's Drone Manufacturing Potential and Focus on European Markets

🎦 01:08:35-01:11:28

  • Irina confirms intense discussions post-Munich Security Conference about drone production and European countries' focus on moving away from Chinese suppliers.
  • She points out a potential challenge: Ukrainian manufacturers focusing on cheap and fast production might not meet European quality and non-Chinese component requirements.
  • Irina raises the question of Ukrainian drone manufacturers targeting European and American markets, requiring a shift in focus towards higher quality and non-Chinese components.
  • She mentions big defence companies entering Ukraine, highlighting the need for Ukrainians to protect their technology and intellectual property to remain competitive long-term.


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Ukraine's Engineering Expertise and Potential for Western Collaboration

🎦 01:11:28-01:13:56

  • Jonathan highlights Ukraine's strong engineering and IT sectors, combined with combat experience, creating a valuable resource for Western manufacturers.
  • He suggests Western companies will want to establish production and R&D in Ukraine due to its skilled workforce and experience.
  • Irina confirms universities are launching engineering and drone-specific programs, noting Ukraine's unique scale of drone expertise development, even beyond formal institutions.
  • She emphasizes the grassroots nature of Ukrainian drone development, with numerous small teams and hobby groups contributing significantly.
  • Irina believes Ukraine's expertise will attract Western companies, as is already happening.


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Mitch Mazerolle's Question on Domestic Drone Motor Production

🎦 01:13:56-01:35:05

  • Jonathan thanks Mark Biskey for a generous Super Chat and brings up Mitch Mazerolle's question about domestic drone motor production in Ukraine.
  • Mitch asks if drone motors are now being domestically produced in Ukraine to reduce reliance on Chinese suppliers.
  • Irina responds that she needs to research this specifically, but has seen motors with Ukrainian labels alongside Chinese-labelled motors.
  • She mentions concerns about relabeling Chinese motors as Ukrainian-made, making it difficult to verify domestic production conclusively.
  • While uncertain about motors, Irina is confident in Ukraine's production of advanced drone components like cameras and thermal cameras, expressing hope for domestic motor production as well.


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Fundraiser Promotion and Gratitude to Donors

🎦 01:35:05-01:38:04

  • Jonathan thanks Mitch Mazerolle, Mark Biskey, and Johnny Christensen for their Super Chats and Stickers.
  • Mitch Mazerolle requests highlighting ongoing fundraisers.
  • Jonathan promotes Jonathan Fink's ongoing Dzyga's Paw fundraiser, which has exceeded its target and aims for an extra drone.
  • He also promotes his NAFO fundraiser with Roman Trokometz and Rick, the Ukrainian, which is 50% complete.
  • Jonathan mentions the successful completion of the previous JigasPaw fundraiser and upcoming Calf Ukraine and 69th Sniffing Brigade campaigns.


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Future Pro-Ukraine Events and Interview with Vitaly Portnikov

🎦 01:38:04-01:40:02

  • Jonathan promotes upcoming pro-Ukraine events, with announcements coming soon regarding dates and venues, thanking supporters for their contributions.
  • Irina expresses her support for the events after attending a post-event dinner and listening to recordings.
  • Jonathan announces an upcoming interview with Vitaly Portnikov, recorded face-to-face in Kyiv, focusing on the US shift towards a transactional foreign policy.
  • He recommends the interview, despite Russian subtitles, for its valuable insights, планируя to release it on Sunday, following tomorrow's video of their Dzyga's Paw visit.


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Wrap up and Final Thanks

🎦 01:40:02-01:41:54

  • Jonathan begins to wrap up the stream, thanking everyone for their support and generosity.
  • He thanks Richard Bennett for gifting ACP Geopolitics memberships and acknowledges all super chatters.
  • Jonathan expresses amazement at the success of the Jigar's Paw fundraiser and praises Irina and her team for their "awesome" work.
  • He asks viewers to applaud Irina and her husband Dinkar, recognizing their inspiring efforts.
  • Irina thanks everyone for their support and community involvement, expressing appreciation for the community vibe.
  • Jonathan and Irina thank the audience and co-hosts, ending the live stream and looking forward to future collaborations.


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