Ukraine War Update BUMPER NEWS: Geopolitical News - US Peace Plans, Trump Compromised
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Hello Team
🎦 00:00-00:27⏩
- Welcome to ATP Geopolitics Ukraine War News Update for 16th February 2025, Part 3.
- Jonathan indicates this will be an important video with a lot of content to cover regarding the US perspective on peace negotiations, Donald Trump's stance and whether the US sees itself as a mediator rather than an ally of Ukraine.
- Jonathan clarifies that when he refers to "the US" or "America" in this context, he means the Trump administration, not all Americans.
US sees itself as mediator, not ally of Ukraine
🎦 00:27-02:10⏩
- Analysis suggests the current US administration views itself as a mediator in the Ukraine war, not an ally of Ukraine.
- Keith Kellogg's statements at the Munich Security Conference reinforced this idea, with no mention of the US as an ally of Ukraine, but rather as a mediator.
- Talks in Saudi Arabia between the US and Russia, without Ukraine or Europe involved, suggest the US is deciding Ukraine's future without Ukrainian input.
- Jonathan believes this approach is about striking a deal to stop the war, rather than advocating for Ukraine.
Article highlights Trump's 1987 Moscow trip and anti-NATO ads after KGB travel agency invitation
🎦 02:10-03:00⏩
- Tim White shared a picture reminding Jonathan of Trump's first visit to Moscow almost 40 years prior.
- Shortly after this 1987 visit, Trump began attacking NATO and US allies.
- In 1987, during the Cold War, Trump took out full-page ads attacking NATO after returning from his first trip to Moscow.
- This trip to Moscow in 1987 was organised by InTourist, the KGB's travel agency.
Hill article: Trump's NATO hostility and Russia relations trace back to 1987
🎦 03:00-03:20⏩
- Jonathan refers to a Hill article from April last year titled "Trump's NATO hostility and Russia relations trace back to 1987".
- This article explores when Trump first expressed views that led to his recent invitation to Russia to "do whatever the hell they want" to allegedly non-paying NATO allies.
Trump's 1987 newspaper ads questioning NATO spending after Moscow trip
🎦 03:20-04:20⏩
- The article highlights that in September 1987, Trump boldly proclaimed his views against NATO by taking out full-page newspaper ads.
- These ads criticised US allies for not paying their fair share of defence costs, questioning why the US should spend billions and risk lives to protect their interests.
- Before this, Trump's foreign policy comments were limited to seeking a nuclear disarmament deal with the Soviet Union, indicating a shift in focus after his Moscow trip.
Trump's 1987 Moscow trip organised by KGB's InTourist travel agency
🎦 04:20-04:44⏩
- Trump's first of four trips to Russia occurred less than two months before he placed the anti-NATO ads.
- He travelled to Moscow in a private jet at the invitation of Soviet Ambassador Yuri Dubinin, accompanied by two Russian colonels.
- Trump claimed he would meet Mikhail Gorbachev, although this meeting did not happen.
Trump's consistent anti-ally rhetoric since 1987 Moscow trip
🎦 04:44-05:15⏩
- Following his 1987 Moscow trip, Trump consistently criticised US allies and NATO in talk shows and speeches for the next two years.
- In a 1988 speech, Trump stated that US friends are "making billions of dollars and stripping us of our dignity," echoing his current sentiments.
Trump's "enemy within" rhetoric mirrors KGB talking points
🎦 05:15-06:28⏩
- Trump's rhetoric, focusing on allies as economic adversaries and echoing "enemy within" themes, aligns with KGB talking points from that era.
- During the 1980s, Soviet influence operations aimed to weaken public support for defensive alliances like NATO and denigrate American institutions.
- Jonathan’s father, working at the US Department of State, published reports on these Soviet influence operations.
Trump favoured "tougher and smarter" Soviet officials over US representatives in 1990 Playboy interview
🎦 06:28-07:21⏩
- By 1990, Trump's view of the Soviet Union had evolved; he foresaw its collapse and criticised Gorbachev for not being firm enough.
- However, in a Playboy interview, Trump admired unnamed Soviet officials he met for business deals, finding them "tougher and smarter" than US representatives.
- This indicates a long-standing admiration for Russian strength and a critical view of American counterparts.
Trump's repeated Russia trips and 2007 "big fan" letter to Putin
🎦 07:21-08:03⏩
- Trump made further trips to Russia in 1996, 2007, and 2013 (for Miss Universe).
- His children also made trips, starting in 2006.
- In 2007, Trump sent Putin a letter congratulating him and stating, "I'm a big fan of yours."
- These trips were ostensibly for scouting hotel locations, but no deals materialised.
Eric Trump's 2014 statement: "We have all the funding we need out of Russia"
🎦 08:03-08:35⏩
- While Trump failed to invest in Russia, Russia invested in Trump.
- In 2014, Eric Trump told author James Dodson, "We don't rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia."
- Donald Trump Jr. also reportedly stated in 2008 that they received funding from Russia and frequently visited the country.
- Eric Trump later vehemently disavowed the 2014 quote.
Questioning Trump's motivations: Money or Compromise?
🎦 08:35-09:30⏩
- Jonathan highlights the significance of Donald Trump Jr.'s 2014 statement about Russian funding.
- Trump's anti-NATO stance has been consistent since his first Moscow trip over 36 years ago, raising questions about Russian influence.
- The question is posed: what did Russia give Trump? Was it money, compromise (as suggested by the Steele dossier), or something else?
- The consistency of Trump's anti-NATO rhetoric since his 1987 Moscow trip is emphasised.
Chaos in US Government: Modi, Musk and the White House
🎦 09:30-10:10⏩
- Jonathan transitions to discussing the "chaos" in the US government.
- Indian leader Narendra Modi visited the White House primarily to meet with Elon Musk, not Donald Trump.
- This is presented as shocking and indicative of unusual priorities within the US administration.
Elon Musk as special government employee meeting with heads of state in White House
🎦 10:10-11:35⏩
- Donald Trump appointed Elon Musk, a billionaire and major federal contractor, as a "special government employee."
- Musk then met with Narendra Modi in the White House, raising concerns about the White House being used to advance Musk's business interests.
- When asked if Musk was representing the US government or his business, Trump responded, "I don't know."
Billionaire rule and oligarchy in US politics
🎦 11:35-12:29⏩
- Jonathan expresses shock and describes the situation as "absolutely staggering."
- He argues that this scenario exemplifies how America is becoming an oligarchy, with a rogue billionaire empowered by a wannabe authoritarian for mutual enrichment.
- This is portrayed as "billionaire rule," not just influence, where the White House is potentially compromised by money from Elon Musk.
Defunding US government departments and sacking investigators into Elon Musk
🎦 12:29-12:58⏩
- While Musk enriches himself using the White House, the US government is defunding departments and sacking personnel.
- Departments investigating Elon Musk were reportedly among the first to face budget cuts and staff reductions.
- Jonathan questions whether this is a coincidence, suggesting it is likely intentional to benefit Musk by removing scrutiny.
Trump administration fired over 300 staffers at National Nuclear Security Administration
- The Trump administration fired over 300 staffers at the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA), the agency managing the US nuclear stockpile.
- Jonathan finds this "ridiculous" and "staggering," suggesting incompetence and a lack of understanding of governance within the administration.
Trump's consistent anti-NATO stance since 1987 Moscow trip reiterated
🎦 13:24-14:21⏩
- Jonathan reiterates Trump's long-standing anti-NATO stance, tracing it back to his first Moscow trip in 1987.
- He emphasizes that this consistent behaviour over decades suggests a deeper, possibly compromised, motivation behind Trump's foreign policy positions.
- The implications of Trump's actions and statements for US alliances and international relations are highlighted as "absolutely incredible".
US lifts sanctions on Belarus, potentially to detach it from Russia
🎦 14:21-14:53⏩
- The White House is reportedly lifting sanctions on Belarus.
- According to the New York Times, the US expects an agreement with Belarus to release political prisoners in exchange for easing sanctions on Belarusian banks and potash exports.
- This move is seen by some as an attempt to pull Belarus out of Russia's sphere of influence, though Jonathan expresses skepticism about this rationale.
US allegedly threatened Canada with expulsion from Five Eyes and border revisions
🎦 14:53-16:12⏩
- Shashank Joshi from The Economist reports hearing secondhand that the Trump administration threatened Canada with revisions to the border and expulsion from the Five Eyes intelligence alliance.
- This is presented as another example of the Trump administration attacking alliances, in this case, targeting a key intelligence partner.
- Canada is said to have threatened retaliation on the energy front in response.
- Jonathan suggests those making these threats may not understand the Five Eyes arrangement and its importance.
US shifts from ally to mediator role regarding Ukraine war
🎦 16:12-17:52⏩
- Jonathan returns to the theme of the US shifting from being an ally of Ukraine to a mediator.
- He cites analysis of Keith Kellogg's statements suggesting the US aims to mediate peace between Russia and Ukraine.
- This shift is significant as a mediator cannot be clearly on one side, contrasting with the previous US administration's firm alliance with Ukraine.
- The US as mediator raises questions about fairness and Ukraine's interests, particularly in proposed US-Russia talks without Ukraine's direct involvement.
US "colonial" deal to control Ukraine's rare earth metals
🎦 17:52-19:42⏩
- Details emerge about a US deal to control Ukraine's rare earth metals.
- A Ukrainian official called the deal "colonial".
- Treasury Secretary Scott Besant presented Zelensky with a document with only minutes to review before pushing for immediate signing of a non-binding memorandum.
- A Ukrainian official joked they would send eggs to maintain US support, while another compared the US demands to European colonisation of Africa in the 18th century.
- Concerns are raised that Ukraine may be signing away its economic future with no guarantee of actual development of resources.
- A Security Council spokesperson, Brian Hughes, expressed disappointment that Zelensky rejected this "great opportunity."
US pressure on Ukraine: Time pressure, no NATO, minerals grab, no weapons, USAID stopped
🎦 19:42-20:38⏩
- Edward Hunter Christie outlines elements of US pressure against Kyiv:
- Time pressure for deals.
- No NATO membership prospects.
- No troops on the ground.
- Proposal to seize Ukraine's minerals with nothing in return.
- No clarity on weapons supplies.
- USAID support stopped.
- This pressure reflects the US shift from ally to mediator, prioritising a quick deal over Ukraine's long-term interests.
No US pressure on Moscow, but support for Russia: diplomatic dialogue, G7 readmission, territorial concessions, pro-Russian party support
🎦 20:38-21:28⏩
- In contrast to pressure on Ukraine, there is "tumbleweed" - no visible US pressure against Moscow.
- Instead, elements of US support for Russia are identified:
- Resumption of high-level diplomatic dialogue.
- Suggestion of readmission to G7/G8.
- Suggestion Russia keeps conquered territories.
- Political support for pro-Russian parties in Europe (like AFD).
- This stark contrast reinforces the idea of the US shifting to a pro-Russia stance.
US "switched sides" - now pro-Russia, anti-Ukraine
🎦 21:28-22:47⏩
- Jonathan cautions against being "hoodwinked" and believes there is a clear indication of whose side the US is on.
- He references an article suggesting the US has "switched sides" in the conflict, now favouring Russia over Ukraine.
- Russian media reported a call between Lavrov and US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, further indicating bilateral discussions without Ukraine's involvement.
- This reinforces the perception of the US acting behind Ukraine's back and aligning with Russian interests.
US-Saudi Arabia peace talks without Ukraine and Europe - "sham peace talks"
🎦 22:47-24:26⏩
- Senior Trump administration officials are reportedly heading to Saudi Arabia for peace talks with Russian and Ukrainian negotiators, but without EU representatives.
- This is causing "consternation" as Ukraine and Europe were not invited initially.
- Philip O'Brien labels these "sham peace talks," suggesting the US aims to bully Ukraine into a bad deal in concert with Putin, excluding European allies.
- This is seen as becoming "two versus one," with the US aligned with Russia against Ukraine and European interests.
US forcing Ukraine to negotiate on Russia's terms - pro-Kremlin, anti-European stance
🎦 24:26-25:12⏩
- Jonathan connects the US approach to statements from JD Vance and aligned pro-Kremlin, anti-European parties like the AFD.
- Trump's behaviour since 1986 and the MAGA administration's language (Project 2025) are described as anti-Ukraine and pro-Russia.
- The US is accused of trying to force Ukraine to negotiate, likely on terms favourable to Russia and detrimental to Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity.
Ukraine refuses to negotiate on Russia's terms, not invited to Saudi talks
🎦 25:12-26:32⏩
- Ukraine's presidential office, through Andrew Yermak, stated Ukraine will not send negotiators to Saudi Arabia because "there's nothing on the table to discuss" and they "won't negotiate on Russia's terms."
- Ukrainian officials report they were neither invited nor informed about the US-Russia talks in Saudi Arabia.
- Zelensky also reported knowing nothing about these negotiations, deeming them "not serious."
- Ukraine insists on leading any negotiation process and determining who should be at the table.
Ukraine demands joint position with US and Europe before Russia talks - "dangerous to speak with enemies before allies"
🎦 26:32-27:28⏩
- Kristen Welker of NBC News interviewed Zelensky, confirming Ukraine was not invited to the Saudi talks.
- A source close to Zelensky stated, "it's dangerous to speak with enemies before you speak with allies," reflecting Ukraine's unchanged position.
- Ukraine insists on a joint position with the US and Europe before any negotiations with Putin.
- US officials claim the intention is to have bilateral talks with Russia and Ukraine separately, then together, aiming for "lasting peace" and "working with both Russia and Ukraine with the same weight."
US no longer ally, but mediator - "We want to give equal weight" - transactional approach
🎦 27:28-28:41⏩
- Jonathan reiterates the point that the US is now acting as a mediator, not an ally of Ukraine.
- The US statement "We want to give equal weight" highlights this neutral stance, contrasting with an allied relationship.
- The US focus is on "ending the killing" and "lasting peace," seemingly prioritising de-escalation over justice or Ukrainian interests.
- Marco Rubio acknowledges Ukraine and Europe will eventually need to be involved, particularly regarding sanctions.
Europe needed only to remove sanctions, Trump dictates peace talks
🎦 28:41-29:16⏩
- Jane Keir suggests the Trump administration's message is that Europe only needs to be involved when it's time to lift sanctions on Russia.
- National Security Advisor Mike Walsh denies excluding Ukraine and Europe but stresses talks are under "Trump leadership," indicating Trump's control.
- Rubio confirms Saudi talks with Russia, stating the next few days will show if Putin is serious about peace.
- Jonathan questions who appointed Trump as a global leader, noting neither Ukraine nor Europe did.
US official statements lack weight - "absolute chaos" - Zelensky to attend Saudi talks?
🎦 29:16-30:20⏩
- A Ukrainian commentator, Tatara Gami, describes the situation as "absolute chaos" due to a lack of coherent US plan.
- US official statements are losing international credibility.
- Reports suggest a Ukrainian delegation is in Saudi Arabia, despite denials of planned meetings with Russians.
- Jonathan speculates Ukraine may have "muscled in" after being excluded, asserting their right to be involved in decisions about their future.
Negotiating Ukraine's future without Ukraine, EU, NATO unacceptable - "European Afghanistan"
🎦 30:20-31:41⏩
- Former Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk deems negotiating Ukraine's future without Ukraine, the EU, and NATO as "unacceptable."
- He warns of a "European Afghanistan" if the US does not stand firmly with Ukraine.
- Zelensky stated he and the Ukrainian people will not accept US-Russia decisions made without Ukraine's involvement.
- Jonathan believes Zelensky's strong stance is forcing his attendance at the Saudi talks, despite not being initially invited, to prevent being sidelined.
Zelensky insists on four-party talks: Ukraine, US, Europe, Russia - reports of fake Russia meetings
🎦 31:41-32:27⏩
- Zelensky insists any talks must include Ukraine, the US, Europe, and Russia.
- He is strongly emphasizing European involvement.
- Andriy Yermak from the President's office denies reports of meetings with Russians as "fake," stating no such meetings are planned without a concrete plan.
- Ukraine asserts that any agreement reached without its involvement will not be accepted.
Zelensky: Putin seeks temporary ceasefire to regroup - dialogue with terrorist
🎦 32:27-32:56⏩
- Zelensky believes Putin seeks a temporary ceasefire to regroup and prepare for a larger offensive, due to significant Russian losses.
- He describes Putin as "a killer" who "will never change" and dialogue with him as "negotiating with a terrorist."
- Zelensky regrets the West's choice to negotiate with Putin, highlighting the difficulty and danger of dealing with the Russian leader.
Zelensky diplomatically says working with Trump team, sees success attainable - real peace needs US, Ukraine, Europe
🎦 32:56-33:55⏩
- Despite his reservations, Zelensky diplomatically stated, "We've begun working with President Trump's team and can already see the success is attainable."
- He emphasizes the world looks to America to stop the war and ensure lasting peace.
- He stresses that real peace requires Ukraine, the US, and Europe working together, again highlighting the importance of European involvement.
Three stages to Ukraine peace: weapons, ceasefire, negotiations - avoid "Finland fate"
🎦 33:55-35:00⏩
- Anton Gerashchenko outlines a three-stage peace plan to avoid Ukraine suffering Finland's fate of losing territory after WWII.
- Stage 1: Preliminary negotiations. Ukraine needs more weapons and pressure on Russia through sanctions and frozen assets to negotiate from strength.
- Stage 2: Ceasefire agreement. Russia agrees to a ceasefire along the front line, followed by international monitoring and discussions on prisoner exchanges and sanctions.
- Stage 3: Peace negotiations. Complex issues like territorial disputes, security guarantees, and compensation are addressed.
- This plan, attributed to Alex Dondostov, emphasizes a phased approach with preconditions for successful negotiation.
Zelensky: Trump team has no clear peace plan - US focused on investments and minerals, Trump transactional
🎦 35:00-36:02⏩
- Zelensky, in the Kristen Welk interview, stated that Trump's team "does not yet have a clear peace plan for Ukraine," suggesting they are "muddling through."
- During a meeting with Vance, the US focus was primarily on "investments and economic development," indicating a transactional approach.
- Zelensky expects Trump to be transactional, prioritizing US gains (minerals, rare earths) over Ukraine's security guarantees.
US doesn't care about Ukraine's outcome, transactional, arguably on Russia's side - "two vultures"
🎦 36:02-37:10⏩
- Jonathan concludes the US "do not care about Ukraine's outcome" in peace negotiations.
- The US is now "completely transactional and Trumpian," prioritizing US gains and exploitation of the situation.
- He argues the US is arguably on Russia's side, with both attempting to extract concessions from Ukraine for peace.
- He uses the metaphor of "two vultures wanting to extract as much as possible from Ukraine," picking at the "Ukrainian carcass."
- The US appears to prioritize "peace" above all else, regardless of the cost to Ukraine's sovereignty or territorial integrity.
Putin wants to cut Ukraine out of negotiations, manipulate Trump - ISW analysis
🎦 37:10-38:31⏩
- Putin intends to exclude Ukraine from negotiations and deal directly with the US, believing he can manipulate Trump (referencing the 2018 Helsinki summit).
- ISW (Institute for the Study of War) notes Putin's attempts to present himself as Trump's equal and Russia as a global power comparable to the US, seeking to convince the US to ignore Ukraine's interests.
- Zelensky believes Putin wants to "embarrass Trump" and have him attend Russia's Victory Day parade on May 9th as a propaganda tool.
- This aligns with reports that the Kremlin instructed Russian state media to reduce Trump coverage and portray Putin as a strong leader, framing the Putin-Trump phone call as a Putin victory.
Europe and Ukraine need united front against Putin - Kremlin denies Ukraine's agency
🎦 38:31-39:11⏩
- Zelensky emphasizes the need for Ukraine and Europe to present a united front to Putin.
- He stresses that Europe must participate in decisions about its future.
- The Kremlin routinely attempts to portray the US as the only relevant actor besides Russia, denying Ukraine agency and aiming to convince the US to disregard Ukraine's interests in negotiations.
- Jonathan agrees this interpretation is "spot-on" and "note-perfect."
Dark scenarios for Ukraine and Europe - Lithuanian former foreign minister Lensbergis' assessment
🎦 39:11-40:01⏩
- Jonathan introduces a "doomy thread" from Gabrielius Landsbergis, former Lithuanian Foreign Minister, from the Munich Security Conference.
- Landsbergis warns of "dark scenarios" unfolding for Ukraine and Europe, indicating a "low mood" leaving the conference.
- He believes a rebound is possible only if European states display "considerable courage and strength."
- The US has signaled its plans for Europe, and "things are clearly not good."
Ukraine can no longer rely on US assistance - US wants fast deal, Ukraine to pay price, US withdraws from European security
🎦 40:01-41:22⏩
- Landsbergis argues Ukraine can no longer rely on US assistance.
- The US president wants a fast peace deal, meaning Ukraine will likely "pay the price."
- The US is no longer willing to be the main guarantor of European security, with talk of troop withdrawals and shifting priorities.
- The current US administration's view of the EU has changed, seeing alignment with "destruction" movements within Europe.
- This raises concerns about US interests in Europe moving forward.
Possible Putin-Trump deal: elections, occupied territories, neutrality - Europe's choice
🎦 41:22-42:28⏩
- Landsbergis anticipates a Putin-Trump agreement, with Putin potentially demanding elections in occupied territories, Ukrainian neutrality, and territorial concessions.
- If Trump agrees, Putin will declare "complete victory."
- Trump will likely present this "dead cat deal" to Europe, leaving Europe to decide whether to support Ukraine or accept the deal.
- Landsbergis emphasizes Europe must "matter" to be at the table, requiring commitment of money, troops, and a European path for Ukraine.
- Otherwise, Ukraine will be forced to rely on itself and a smaller group of allies, while threats to European security will increase.
China could step in as Ukraine's protector if US and Europe fail - "Kissinger scandal"
🎦 42:28-43:07⏩
- Landsbergis warns that if the US and Europe fail to offer security to Ukraine, China might step in, using leverage over Russia and potentially offering a better deal than Trump's.
- Ukraine could offer China rebuilding opportunities, port access, and agricultural produce in exchange for security.
- This could create a "Kissinger scandal," splitting the US and Europe as Kissinger split the Soviet Union and China.
- China as Ukraine's protector could replace the US in keeping Russia out of Eastern Europe, with EU eastern countries becoming dependent on China's protection.
Europe needs Churchill-like leader, "blood, toil, tears and sweat" - US re-nazifying Germany?
🎦 43:07-44:02⏩
- Landsbergis hopes for a Churchill-like leader in Europe with the resolve to defend Europe from Ukraine to Portugal, even if it means "blood, toil, tears and sweat."
- The alternative is a more devastating future war.
- Jonathan highlights Josh Rogin's report about JD Vance meeting with the co-leader of Germany's far-right AFD party at the Munich Security Conference.
- A German expert in Munich stated, "first, America denazified Germany, World War II, now America is re-nazifying Germany."
JD Vance met with pro-Putin AFD party leader, wants pro-Russian Germany - "shared values"? Nazi values?
- JD Vance met with Alice Weidel, the candidate for Chancellor of Germany from the AFD, who calls for restoring relations and economic ties with Russia.
- Elon Musk has platformed the AFD, indicating US administration support for a pro-Russian party to lead Germany.
- Jonathan questions the "shared values" Vance claims to have with the AFD, suggesting they are closer to "Nazi values."
- He emphasizes the extremist nature of the AFD and the dangerous implications of US support for such parties.
MAGA message: white, Christian, male identity - US becoming new imperial entity
- Jonathan argues that by meeting with the AFD and snubbing the elected German Chancellor, Vance is signaling that the "will of the people" favoured by the US administration is "white, Christian, male, and willing to fight for that identity."
- This is described as "not subtle at all."
- He connects this to the idea of the US becoming a new imperial entity, echoing historical empires like ancient Rome.
US not interested in values or rule of law, aligns with Putin and Orban - Trump: "law doesn't apply to me"
🎦 46:07-47:30⏩
- Jonathan states the US is no longer interested in "values" or the "rule of law," mirroring Putin's approach.
- He cites Trump's statement, "he who saves this country does not violate any law," as evidence that Trump believes law doesn't apply to him or his allies.
- The US administration is described as ignoring lawyers and judges, acting illegally and disregarding norms and rules.
- This aligns the US with autocratic governance models like Putin's Russia and Orban's Hungary.
- Jonathan emphasizes the seriousness of these developments and warns against dismissing them as mere media bias.
Trump's Canada 51st state talk - dictator behaviour, threat to sovereignty - US new imperial country
🎦 47:30-48:26⏩
- Jonathan draws a parallel between Trump's talk of taking Greenland and Canada becoming the 51st state and Putin's actions in Crimea and Ukraine.
- He argues this rhetoric disrespects territorial integrity and sovereignty, behaviours associated with dictators and authoritarians, not democracies.
- Trump's Canada comments are not a joke but a "huge threat" laying groundwork for the US to become a new imperial country, reflecting a Roman Empire-like ambition.
Hypocrisy of MAGA Republicans - Zelensky criticised for ammunition factory visit, Vance endorses neo-fascist AFD
🎦 48:26-50:02⏩
- Jonathan highlights the hypocrisy of MAGA Republicans.
- He recalls criticism of Zelensky for visiting an ammunition factory in Pennsylvania, seen as election interference, with demands to fire the Ukrainian ambassador.
- Yet, JD Vance openly endorses the far-right, pro-Kremlin AFD, while snubbing the German Chancellor, without similar Republican outcry.
- Jonathan condemns this hypocrisy and challenges viewers who criticised Zelensky but not Vance to "get your freaking head checked," calling them "hypocrites."
Vance's Munich speech: "free speech" means Musk runs elections, "democracy" means Russia runs elections - Europe's turn
🎦 50:02-50:22⏩
- Timothy Snyder decodes Vance's Munich speech: "free speech means let Musk run your elections, and democracy means let Russia run your elections."
- Snyder concludes that "2025 is about what Europeans do, not what Americans say," emphasizing European agency in the face of US uncertainty.
Trump's team's "non-standard but encouraging" Ukraine plans - "bold, chaotic, contradictory" but big ideas
🎦 50:22-51:14⏩
- Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski reports that Trump's team shared "non-standard but encouraging plans for Ukraine" at the Munich Security Conference.
- Jonathan finds this interesting, suggesting there might be some positive aspects despite the overall negative trends.
- He anticipates the Trump approach will be "bold, chaotic, and contradictory" but could include "big ideas" that gain traction.
- Edward Hunter Christie stresses Vance's speech as a direct attack on European security, aiming for MAGA-aligned, pro-Moscow, anti-Ukraine governments in Europe.
Vance's speech reveals US foreign policy: anti-woke, culture war approach - US wants "doge" in Europe
🎦 51:14-52:19⏩
- Jonathan emphasizes the Vance speech provides a window into US foreign policy, reflecting the administration's domestic agenda.
- The US is "slashing and burning" its government for a right-wing, anti-woke, culture war approach, and wants similar governments abroad.
- JD Vance aims to spread this propaganda in Europe and meet with parties aligned with this vision.
- Jonathan suggests the Trump administration wants a "doge" (strongman leader) in Europe, referencing Dominic Cummings' similar desire for the UK.
Europe's key: assume Trump is heartless nationalist, not just pro-Putin - build European strength and agency
🎦 52:19-53:06⏩
- Hansa Christy poses the question: if Trump wants this, what can Europe do?
- The key is to assume Trump is a "heartless American nationalist" with a "soft spot for the strong" and "contempt for the weak," rather than solely pro-Putin.
- This assumption requires Europe to build strength and relevance, making it harder for Trump to push around, even if he is secretly pro-Putin.
- Assuming Trump is purely pro-Putin could lead Europe to "strategic defeat."
- Europe needs to act "immediately," revising defence budgets and becoming strong to combat both Putin and potentially a pro-Putin Trump administration.
European Defence Community revival needed - Ukraine key to European defence
🎦 53:06-55:17⏩
- Anton Gerashchenko highlights the need for a European Defence Community, similar to the post-WWII proposal that failed in 1954.
- Current parallels include a dictator threatening European peace, an underperforming European military-industrial complex, and uncertainty about NATO's future.
- Europe has relied on the US security umbrella for 75 years but times are changing, requiring European self-reliance.
- Ukraine, with its battle-hardened military, could play a "key role" and become an "important component of a common European defence."
- Jonathan agrees Ukraine's integration into European defence is crucial.
Kellogg: Ukraine at table, Europe not - "for speed" - Trump control, avoiding responsibility - no real power?
🎦 55:17-57:30⏩
- Timothy Milovanov notes Keith Kellogg saying Ukraine will be at the peace talks table, but Europe will not, citing "speed" as the reason.
- Kellogg claims the war will end within a year (180 days).
- Jonathan interprets this to mean Kellogg "actually holds no real power," and is merely a mouthpiece for Trump's desires for quick results and control.
- "Speed" is a pretext; the real reasons are Trump's desire for control and to avoid responsibility if negotiations fail.
- Milovanov argues Kellogg cannot agree on anything substantial with Ukraine alone.
Kellogg's contradictory statements - "lasting, sustainable, Ukrainian sovereignty" but "no credible security guarantee" now
🎦 57:30-58:24⏩
- Kellogg states the goal is a "lasting, sustainable" peace ensuring "Ukrainian sovereignty so it never starts again," but also says "no credible security guarantee" is currently available.
- He claims to be "reaching out to allies" and will return to Trump for decisions.
- Jonathan reiterates Milovanov's point that Kellogg likely lacks real power and is contradicted by Trump and Vance.
- Kellogg is seen as part of a smaller, more "sensible" circle on Ukraine policy, versus the Trump-Vance-Musk faction that is "not in favour of Ukraine."
- The question remains how much influence Kellogg has against the more dominant anti-Ukraine faction within the Trump administration.
Kellogg's exclusion of Europe insulting - Ukraine-Russia talks bilateral, intermediaries not US decision
🎦 58:24-58:52⏩
- Edward Hunter Christie calls Kellogg "silly" for excluding Europe, arguing Ukraine and Russia can have bilateral talks anytime, with or without intermediaries.
- The choice of intermediaries for Ukraine-Russia talks is not a US decision but one for the parties involved.
- Kellogg's statement excluding Europe and Ukraine is "really insulting to many people," undermining the agency of both Ukraine and European allies.