US Politics Extra: Fact-Checking Trump's Meet the Press Interview #1
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"And I just could never vote for someone like that. I try and teach my children not to lie. I'm really big on not lying. Like intentionally telling untruths, intentionally doing that is, in my book, one of the worst things. And that he does it so often is, I think, absolutely unacceptable."
Hello Team
🎦 00:00-00:04⏩
Jonathan introduces the video as a US politics special where he will be analysing an interview with Donald Trump by Kristen Welker on NBC News' "Meet the Press".
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Platforming Trump's Propaganda
🎦 00:04-01:43⏩
- Jonathan explains his motivation for analysing the interview: he has seen excerpts that show Trump either lying or not understanding what he's talking about.
- Jonathan reads an analysis by author David Pepper, who claims the interview featured "an endless stream of lies and disinformation" on various topics.
- Pepper questions whether serious media outlets should be platforming Trump's propaganda.
- Jonathan discusses the dilemma faced by media organisations: pushing back against Trump's lies might be seen as antagonistic and could lead to less access to him in the future. However, not pushing back normalises lying in the information age.
Trump Denies Tariffs Will Increase Consumer Costs
🎦 01:43-03:51⏩
- Kristen Welker begins by questioning Trump about his promise to end inflation and lower prices, pointing out that he is proposing tariffs.
- Economists say that consumers ultimately pay the price of tariffs.
- Trump immediately says, "I don't believe it."
- Jonathan expresses disbelief at Trump's statement, comparing it to someone denying that the moon is made of cheese.
- Jonathan states he has previously explained how tariffs are passed on to the consumer in a video and argues that Trump is either dense and doesn't understand basic economics or is lying.
Trump's Red Herring on Tariffs and the Economy
🎦 03:51-09:07⏩
- Trump claims he can't guarantee anything but then states that before COVID, the US had the greatest economy in history.
- Jonathan says Trump is going off on a "red herring."
- Trump claims he had tariffs on many countries, particularly China, and that there was no inflation.
- Jonathan finds this problematic, stating that the previous tariffs were strategic, not across the board.
- Trump had to bail out farmers due to the trade war with China, so comparing those tariffs to the proposed ones is like comparing "apples and bricks."
- Jonathan also points out that Trump fails to mention the oil production cut he begged OPEC to do, which impacted inflation.
- Jonathan provides data showing that inflation started going up in March 2021 and peaked in December, coinciding with the Omicron variant and a similar global inflation curve.
- Jonathan criticises Trump for blaming the governments that came in after him, given the pandemic, increased economic activity, and the energy crisis from the Ukraine-Russia conflict.
- Jonathan refutes Trump's claim that there was no inflation for a year and a half after he left office, pointing out that Biden took office in January 2021 and that inflation for that year was 7%.
- Jonathan explains that economic policies take time to have an effect, so the inflation in 2021 couldn't be attributed to Biden's policies.
Trump's Guarded Stance on Tariffs
🎦 09:07-09:45⏩
- Jonathan notes that Trump is being guarded about tariffs, admitting he can't guarantee prices won't go up, which is in contrast to his previous statements.
- Jonathan suggests that Trump might implement tariffs selectively to avoid widespread inflation.
- Jonathan recalls that Trump previously touted very high tariff percentages (100%, 200%, 500%, 2000%), which would have been "insanely suicidal" for the American economy.
Trump's "Beautiful" Tariffs
🎦 09:45-10:28⏩
- Trump, in the interview, calls tariffs "the most beautiful word" and says they will make the US rich.
- Trump claims the US is subsidizing Canada "to the tune of over 100 billion."
- Jonathan questions how tariffs will make the US "stupendously rich" and prepares to explain how they work.
Jonathan Explains How Tariffs Actually Work
🎦 10:28-11:54⏩
- Jonathan explains that tariffs are taxes charged to importers for foreign goods, not taxes on the goods themselves.
- The tax money comes from inside the nation, not from outside.
- Importers can either pass the cost on to consumers (inflation) or absorb the cost, reducing profits and investment.
- The hope is that domestic production will eventually replace imports, but that takes time and will likely involve higher costs.
- Jonathan concludes that tariffs will be inflationary in the short term.
Trump's Misuse of "Subsidy"
🎦 11:54-13:20⏩
- Jonathan criticises Trump's claim that the US is subsidizing Canada and Mexico, explaining that a trade deficit is not a subsidy.
- Jonathan accuses Trump of being loose with his vocabulary and irresponsible, as he is supposed to be an economic leader.
- Jonathan argues that Trump is misleading low-information viewers by using economic terms incorrectly.
Trump's "Level Playing Field"
🎦 13:20-15:04⏩
- Trump claims he wants a "level, fast, but fair playing field" regarding trade.
- Jonathan points out that free trade agreements, like the replacement for NAFTA, create a level playing field.
- Jonathan explains that production costs are lower in Mexico due to differences in the cost of living and other factors.
- Jonathan argues that Trump's proposed tariffs would actually unlevel the playing field by making it harder for some countries to trade with the US.
Trump's Tariffs "Cost Americans Nothing"
🎦 15:04-16:09⏩
- Welker states that Trump's previous tariffs cost Americans $80 billion.
- Trump interrupts, saying, "They cost Americans nothing."
- Jonathan criticises Welker for not challenging Trump's false statement more forcefully.
Trump Claims Tariffs "Stopped Wars"
🎦 16:09-18:40⏩
- Trump claims that tariffs have "stopped wars" and solved other unspecified problems.
- Jonathan demands details, saying that Trump's vague claims are "not good enough."
- Jonathan cites a Washington Post article stating that Trump's first-term tariffs had little effect on the economy and did not cause the feared inflation.
- Jonathan reiterates that strategic tariffs are different from across-the-board tariffs and that he is not anti-tariff in all situations.
- Jonathan argues that Trump's claim that tariffs solved problems without providing details is "meaningless guff."
- Trump continues to tout the benefits of tariffs without addressing the negative consequences.
- Jonathan mentions that Trump bailed out farmers for billions of dollars due to his trade policies.
Trump Threatens Mexico and Canada Over Immigration
🎦 18:40-23:55⏩
- Trump discusses immigration, claiming that millions of people are pouring into the US from Mexico and Canada.
- Trump says he spoke with Justin Trudeau and the president of Mexico about closing their borders, threatening 25% tariffs if they don't comply.
- Jonathan mentions that Trump has recently made insulting comments about Canada, calling Trudeau the "governor of Canada."
- Jonathan cites sources indicating that while Canada does export fentanyl, Trump's concerns are hyperbolic.
- Jonathan notes that Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum contradicted Trump's claims about their phone conversation.
- Jonathan mentions a recent large fentanyl bust in Mexico, suggesting it might be a signal to Trump or a coincidence.
Trump on Replacing Jerome Powell
🎦 23:55-24:17⏩
- Welker asks Trump if he will try to replace Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell.
- Trump says he doesn't have plans to do so right now but implies he could if he wanted to.
Trump's Plan to Deport All Undocumented Immigrants
🎦 24:17-25:35⏩
- Welker asks Trump about his plans for mass deportation, specifically whether he intends to deport everyone who is in the US illegally.
- Trump says, "Well, I think you have to do it."
- Jonathan clarifies that Trump is not just talking about deporting undocumented immigrants with criminal histories but all undocumented immigrants.
- Jonathan estimates this would be around 13 million people and would be hugely inflationary.
Trump's False Claim About Released Murderers
🎦 25:35-28:15⏩
- Trump claims that 13,099 murderers have been released into the US over the last three years.
- Welker challenges him, saying the 13,000 figure goes back about 40 years.
- Trump insists the figure is from the Biden term.
- Jonathan cites a fact-check on Twitter (now X) showing that the number refers to undocumented immigrants convicted of homicide over more than 40 years, not three, and that most are in prison, not released.
- Jonathan calls Trump out for lying, arguing that he should have been corrected by his team by now.
- Jonathan expresses anger and calls Trump's statement "deeply, deeply irresponsible" and "disinformation."
Trump's False Claim About Venezuelan Crime
🎦 28:15-30:19⏩
- Trump claims that Venezuela's prisons are at their lowest point because they are emptying them and sending criminals to the US.
- Jonathan refutes this, citing a report that the decline in Venezuela's crime rate is due to the poor economy, mass migration, and extrajudicial killings, not emptying prisons.
- Jonathan reiterates that Trump's claim has been debunked.
Trump's Assertions About Venezuelan Gangs
🎦 30:19-31:57⏩
- Trump claims that Venezuelan gangs are taking over buildings in the US and that local police say this is the case.
- Welker counters that local police in Colorado say it's not the case.
- Trump dismisses the police statements and says he plays reports about the gangs at his rallies.
- Jonathan criticises Welker for not pushing back more forcefully and questions Trump's sources of information.
- Jonathan argues that experts and local police should be trusted over Trump's assertions.
- Jonathan expresses frustration that so many people believe Trump despite his constant lying.
Differing Evaluations of Immigration's Costs and Gains
🎦 31:57-34:06⏩
- Trump claims that undocumented immigrants are "costing us a fortune."
- Jonathan acknowledges that there are differing evaluations of the net costs and gains of immigration, both legal and illegal.
- Jonathan notes that immigrants generally are net contributors and have lower crime rates than the native-born population.
- Jonathan cites a government report suggesting that the cost of immigration is more related to education levels than laziness.
- Jonathan points out that young men who migrate are more likely to work and less likely to draw on welfare.
- Jonathan concludes that the issue is complex and that Trump doesn't do nuance.
Trump's Stance on Dreamers
🎦 34:06-38:16⏩
- Welker asks Trump about his position on "dreamers," undocumented immigrants brought to the US as children.
- Welker reminds Trump that he said in 2017 that dreamers shouldn't be worried.
- Trump says "dreamers are going to come later" and that "we're going to do something about the dreamers."
- Jonathan notes that Trump seems to be formulating his answer as he goes along, suggesting he doesn't have a clear position.
- Jonathan contrasts this with how someone who values dreamers would likely answer the question.
Trump's Position on Families with Mixed Immigration Status
🎦 38:16-40:26⏩
- Welker asks Trump about families with mixed immigration status (e.g., undocumented parents and legal children).
- Trump's border czar, Tom Homan, has said such families can be deported together.
- Trump says, "Well, that way you keep the family together."
- Jonathan jokes that Trump's own family could be deported to Slovenia under such a policy.
- Trump says he doesn't want to break up families but argues that sending them all back together is the only way to avoid it.
- Jonathan agrees in principle with Trump's statement that difficult decisions require sticking to principles, regardless of media blowback.
Trump's Plan to End Birthright Citizenship
🎦 40:26-41:35⏩
- Trump promises to end birthright citizenship on day one, claiming it's ridiculous that the US is the only country that has it.
- Welker points out that the 14th Amendment grants citizenship to all persons born in the US.
- Trump says he will try to end it through executive action if possible.
- Jonathan refutes Trump's claim that the US is the only country with birthright citizenship, citing the CIA World Factbook, which states that dozens of countries have similar laws.
Trump's Position on Obamacare
🎦 41:35-48:29⏩
- Welker asks Trump about repealing and replacing Obamacare, noting that Republican lawmakers say it's no longer feasible.
- Trump blames John McCain for letting "us" down, calling Obamacare "lousy healthcare."
- Jonathan questions who Trump means by "us" and points out that Obamacare is seen as popular.
- Jonathan criticises the US healthcare system, contrasting it with the UK's universal healthcare system.
- Jonathan highlights the high per capita healthcare costs in the US and the influence of Big Pharma and insurance companies.
- Jonathan argues that Trump's alternative to Obamacare would likely be more of the same, benefiting corporations over citizens.
- Trump claims he "saved" Obamacare by making it work, despite trying to overturn it.
- Jonathan doubts Trump's claim that he improved Obamacare and points out that Trump still doesn't have an alternative eight years later.
Trump's "Concepts of a Plan" for Healthcare
🎦 48:29-51:24⏩
- Welker asks Trump if he has an actual healthcare plan.
- Trump says he has "concepts of a plan" and that the "biggest healthcare companies" are looking at it.
- Jonathan expresses concern that Trump is relying on healthcare companies, including Big Pharma, to develop his plan, suggesting it will benefit them rather than the American people.
- Jonathan criticises Trump for saying he "saved" Obamacare after previously blaming John McCain for its survival.
Trump's Stance on Abortion Pills
🎦 51:24-53:21⏩
- Welker asks Trump if he will restrict the availability of abortion pills.
- Trump says he will "probably stay with exactly what I've been saying for the last two years, and the answer is no."
- Trump then hedges, saying, "Do things change? I think they change."
- Trump criticises Joe Biden for saying he won't pardon his son, implying that Biden will eventually do so.
- Jonathan points out that Trump has made definitive statements that turned out to be false, such as his claim to end the Ukraine-Russia war in 24 hours.
Wrap up
🎦 53:21-56:15⏩
- Jonathan concludes that virtually everything Trump says is either false or needs justification.
- Jonathan describes Trump as vague, ignorant, bombastic, rhetorical, and a liar.
- Jonathan states he could never vote for someone like that and emphasises the importance of not lying.
- Jonathan expresses bewilderment that so many people like and vote for Trump.
- Jonathan says he will do a part two to analyse more of the interview.
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