Signal Security Scandal: The Fallout, the Reaction. No Heads Will Roll?
Table of Contents 📖
"Heads have to roll for this, but will they?"
Hello Team
🎦 00:00-00:26⏩
- Jonathan welcomes viewers to the video, which will focus on the fallout from the Signal security breach.
- He mentions that details of the breach were covered in a previous "breaking news update" video and this video will focus on the reactions and hypocrisy surrounding the event.
- The security breach involves top US administration officials potentially breaking the Espionage Act by sharing sensitive information on Signal.
Times Radio Interview on Signal Security Breach
🎦 00:26-01:24⏩
- Jonathan references a Times Radio interview discussing the "extraordinary security breach".
- The interview highlights the incompetence of using Signal for top-level national security discussions.
- It is mentioned that war planning details, target information, and US assets were discussed on Signal hours before a strike on the Houthis.
- The conversation included debate about the merits of striking the Houthis, with J.D. Vance opposing it as it would benefit Europeans.
Secure Communication Protocols (SCIFs) and Loose Conversation
🎦 01:24-03:14⏩
- The discussion emphasizes that sensitive conversations should occur in Secure Compartmented Information Facilities (SCIFs), not on unsecured phones.
- Jonathan expresses disbelief at the "unbelievably loose conversation" conducted on Signal by officials who were previously critical of Democratic security arrangements, referencing Hillary Clinton's email server.
- The level of incompetence and recklessness is highlighted as astonishing, potentially endangering American and allied lives.
Jeffrey Goldberg's Responsible Journalism
🎦 03:14-04:11⏩
- Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, received the leaked Signal chat information hours before the Houthi strike.
- As a responsible journalist, Goldberg did not publish the sensitive details about weapons and targets, even after the event.
- Jonathan praises Goldberg's responsibility in handling the leaked information, emphasising the potential risks if it had fallen into the wrong hands.
Potential Ramifications and Reactions
🎦 04:11-04:49⏩
- Jonathan expresses hope for major revisions and "heads rolling" due to the security breach, as it is a matter of national security.
- The focus shifts to the expected reactions to this astonishing security breach and whether there will be any real consequences.
- The question of ramifications and accountability is raised.
Department of Defense Warning on Mobile App Misuse
🎦 04:49-05:24⏩
- A Department of Defense statement is quoted, warning that "the misuse and mismanagement of mobile apps poses a cyber security and operation security risk."
- This highlights the official recognition of the risks associated with using mobile apps like Signal for sensitive communications.
- The officials involved in the Signal chat are said to have "fallen foul of the Espionage Act" by ignoring these warnings.
Michael Cohen's Reaction and Scale of the Breach
🎦 05:24-05:51⏩
- Michael Cohen's reaction is shared, describing it as "pretty insane" that Mike Walls included 18 national security officials in a Signal chat to discuss war plans, with none questioning the platform's security.
- The scale of the breach is emphasized by the number of high-ranking officials involved (18) and the fact that it went "right to the top".
- Jeffrey Goldberg's interview with Jen Psaki is mentioned as further commentary on the incident.
Jeffrey Goldberg's Questions on Information Sensitivity
🎦 05:51-07:50⏩
- Jeffrey Goldberg questions why the Secretary of the Treasury needed to know specific attack details, including sequencing and targets.
- Goldberg describes the sensitive information he saw, including attack times, specific targets (even human targets), weapon systems, and weather reports.
- He highlights the detailed "minute-by-minute accounting" of the planned operation, arguing it was effectively a "war plan" despite denials.
- Goldberg emphasizes that most people in the chat, including himself, did not need to know these details, underscoring the over-sharing of classified information.
Timeline and Key Individuals in the Signal Group
🎦 07:50-09:43⏩
- The Signal group chat started on March 13th.
- Tulsi Gabbard, then Director of National Intelligence, joined and wrote in the chat minutes after its creation.
- Gabbard tweeted the next day about unauthorized release of classified information being a violation of the law, seemingly contradicting her own participation in the insecure chat.
- Steve Witkoff, envoy to Russia, was also in the Signal group.
- Witkoff was in Moscow at the time, potentially having met with Putin on March 13th.
Concerns about Steve Witkoff's Moscow Location
🎦 09:43-11:31⏩
- Questions are raised about Steve Witkoff's location in Moscow while participating in the Signal chat discussing war plans.
- Deborah Haynes and Colby Badhwar highlight the potential security risks of Witkoff being in Moscow, possibly using unsecured Wi-Fi networks like the Kremlin's guest Wi-Fi.
- The possibility of Russian access to the Signal chat due to Witkoff's location is discussed.
Russian Access and Potential Phone Scouring
🎦 11:31-12:29⏩
- The discussion expands on the potential for Russian intelligence to have accessed the Signal chat, especially if Witkoff connected to unsecured Wi-Fi.
- Olga Lautman points out the timeline suggesting Witkoff was in Moscow when added to the chat.
- Colby Badhwar notes Signal's encryption but highlights Witkoff's potential naivety and the ease with which Russians could compromise his phone.
- The eight-hour wait Witkoff experienced before meeting Putin is suggested as ample time for Russian intelligence to scour his phone while connected to Wi-Fi.
Hypocrisy and Double Standards
🎦 12:29-13:30⏩
- The video transitions to discussing the hypocrisy of those involved in the Signal breach, particularly concerning their past criticisms of Hillary Clinton's handling of classified information.
- The question is posed: how will Republicans respond given their previous outrage over Clinton's emails?
- The expectation is that Republicans will struggle to acknowledge the severity of this breach due to their past stance on similar issues.
Republican Criticisms of Hillary Clinton's Emails
🎦 13:30-17:03⏩
- Clips are shown of various Republicans, including Pete Hegseth and Stephen Miller, vehemently criticizing Hillary Clinton's email practices.
- These clips emphasize their demands for investigations, apologies, and even imprisonment for Clinton over her handling of classified information.
- The clips highlight the strong language used and the outrage expressed by Republicans at the time regarding Clinton's email server.
Tulsi Gabbard and Pete Hegseth's Previous Stances
🎦 17:03-18:03⏩
- Tulsi Gabbard's past statement about unauthorized release of classified information being a violation of the law is replayed, highlighting her apparent self-indictment given her participation in the Signal chat.
- Pete Hegseth's past comments are again referenced, where he suggested Clinton's actions warranted firing and criminal prosecution.
- These examples further emphasize the hypocrisy of those involved in the Signal security breach given their previous strong criticisms of similar actions.
Mike Walls' Past Criticism of Jake Sullivan and Hillary Clinton
🎦 18:03-18:46⏩
- A tweet from Mike Walls, the National Security Advisor involved in the Signal chat, is shown.
- In the tweet, Walls criticizes Jake Sullivan for sending top-secret messages to Hillary Clinton's private accounts and questions the DOJ's inaction.
- This further highlights the hypocrisy, as Walls himself is now involved in a similar, if not more serious, security breach using Signal.
- Jonathan questions whether Walls will maintain his vociferous criticism now that he is implicated in a similar scandal.
Donald Trump's 2016 Promises and Current Actions
🎦 18:46-19:36⏩
- Audio clips of Donald Trump from 2016 are played, where he promised to restore honour to government and enforce laws protecting classified information, stating "no one will be above the law".
- Jonathan contrasts these promises with Trump's own actions, referencing the classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago, including in his bathroom.
- This juxtaposition underscores the hypocrisy of Trump and his administration regarding the handling of classified information.
Jessica Tarlov's Comment and Scale of Incompetence
🎦 19:36-20:31⏩
- Jessica Tarlov from Fox News is praised for saying she doesn't want to hear "but her emails" again, acknowledging the seriousness of the Signal breach.
- The scale of the Trump administration's "incompetence and recklessness" is emphasized as "unimaginable".
- The Jeffrey Goldberg article revealing the Signal chat is referenced again as evidence of this recklessness.
- The fact that national security heads were planning military operations on an unsecured app like Signal is highlighted as incredibly concerning.
Beth Rigby's Reaction and Question of Fallout
🎦 20:31-21:26⏩
- Beth Rigby, a UK political journalist, is quoted calling the Atlantic security breach revelation "genuinely one of the most extraordinary stories I've ever read" and "simply astounding".
- Rigby highlights the devastating nature of the national security breach and raises concerns for US allies like the UK.
- The central question of whether there will be significant fallout from this scandal is reiterated.
Hillary Clinton's Pithy Reaction
🎦 21:26-21:48⏩
- Hillary Clinton's reaction to the scandal, "You have got to be kidding me," is presented as "delightfully pithy and on point".
- Jonathan interprets Clinton's reaction as highlighting the hypocrisy and disproportionate scrutiny she faced compared to the current situation.
- The question remains whether any real consequences will follow the Signal breach despite its severity.
National Security Council Statement and "Inadvertent Number"
🎦 21:48-22:48⏩
- The National Security Council statement confirming the authenticity of the message thread is discussed.
- The statement mentions "an inadvertent number was added to the chain," referring to Jeffrey Goldberg's inclusion.
- Jonathan mocks the "inadvertent number" explanation, highlighting the implausibility of accidentally adding a journalist to a top-secret national security chat.
- The NSC statement attempts to downplay the breach by emphasizing "deep and thoughtful policy coordination" and the "success" of the Houthi operation.
Dismissive Tone of NSC Statement and Lack of Accountability
🎦 22:48-23:31⏩
- Jonathan criticises the NSC statement's tone, which seems to celebrate the Signal chat as a demonstration of "deep and thoughtful policy coordination" rather than acknowledging the security failure.
- He contrasts this with what a responsible reaction should be: admitting the breach, apologising, and launching an investigation.
- The statement's attempt to spin a serious security lapse into a positive narrative is highlighted as inappropriate and indicative of a lack of accountability.
- Jonathan sarcastically mentions the emojis used in the chat to further mock the casual and unserious approach to national security.
Trump's Initial Dismissive Reaction
🎦 23:31-24:48⏩
- Donald Trump's initial reaction to the leak at a White House presser is shown.
- Trump claims to know "nothing about it" and dismisses The Atlantic magazine.
- Jonathan argues that Trump's denial is "bad acting" and performative, asserting that as president, he would have been briefed on such a significant security breach.
- Trump's deflection by attacking The Atlantic instead of addressing the substance of the leak is highlighted as a typical tactic.
Tom Nichols' Analysis of Trump's Response
🎦 24:48-26:01⏩
- Tom Nichols' analysis of Trump's response is presented, agreeing that Trump's denial is not genuine.
- Nichols suggests that if Trump genuinely didn't know about the leak, that would be equally concerning, indicating a lack of awareness within his administration.
- The consensus is that Trump's response is disingenuous and aimed at dismissing the issue rather than addressing the serious security lapse.
Pete Hegseth's Evasive and Fallacious Response
🎦 26:01-28:47⏩
- Pete Hegseth's response to a question about the leak is shown, where he attacks Jeffrey Goldberg as a "deceitful and highly discredited so-called journalist".
- Jonathan identifies Hegseth's response as using "poisoning the well" and ad hominem attacks, fallacies that avoid addressing the actual issue.
- Hegseth's deflection and failure to deny being in the Signal group or the authenticity of the messages is highlighted.
- Jonathan emphasizes that Hegseth's personal attacks on Goldberg are irrelevant to the core issue of the security breach.
Community Notes and Hegseth's Unacceptable Response
🎦 28:47-30:02⏩
- Community Notes on Hegseth's video are mentioned, indicating public pushback against his dismissive response.
- Hegseth's claim that "nobody was texting war plans" is directly refuted by Jeffrey Goldberg, who confirmed he saw detailed attack plans in the chat.
- Jonathan reiterates that Hegseth's response is "absolutely unacceptable" and demonstrably false, given Goldberg's account and the NSC's confirmation of the messages' authenticity.
Fox News' Downplaying of the Scandal
🎦 30:02-32:38⏩
- Fox News' initial reaction to the scandal is shown, exemplified by a presenter mischaracterizing Signal as an "encryption app" rather than a messaging app.
- This is seen as an attempt to obfuscate and downplay the user-friendliness and accessibility of Signal, making the breach seem less egregious.
- The Fox News presenter focuses on the "takeaways" being the accidental inclusion of a journalist and the "transparent insight" into national leaders' thought processes, minimizing the security implications.
- Jonathan sarcastically highlights the "wonderful transparency" and "cooperative, team-based approach" being praised by Fox News, mocking their attempt to spin the negative situation positively.
Josh Hawley's Hypocritical Defence
🎦 32:38-34:11⏩
- Republican Senator Josh Hawley's defence of the administration is presented, where he downplays the leak as "griping about who's on a text message" and praises the "success" of the Houthi strikes.
- Hawley's dismissal of the security breach as trivial compared to the perceived "success" of the military action is highlighted.
- Jonathan labels Hawley's response as "horrific, horrific hypocrisy," given Republicans' past outrage over similar issues.
Sean Hannity's "Feigned, Phony Outrage" Claim
🎦 34:11-35:20⏩
- Sean Hannity's Fox News segment is shown, where he dismisses the scandal as "feigned, phony outrage" from the left and "obsessed with an accidentally leaked text".
- Hannity claims the "left" is using this as a "smear" because they "can't argue with the policies" or the "demonstration of American strength".
- Jonathan interprets Hannity's response as an attempt to "prime the audience" to dismiss the scandal as a partisan attack and to "poison the well" against critics.
Jesse Watters' Dismissive Jokes and Despicable Behaviour
🎦 35:20-36:24⏩
- Jesse Watters from Fox News is shown making light of the situation with jokes referencing Hillary Clinton's server and Mar-a-Lago toilets.
- Watters' dismissive and joking tone is highlighted as inappropriate given the seriousness of the national security breach.
- Jonathan expresses disgust at Watters' behaviour and the way he and others on Fox News dismiss Jessica Tarlov when she tries to address the issue seriously.
- He calls their behaviour "despicable".
Mike Johnson's Dismissal of Disciplinary Action
🎦 36:24-37:15⏩
- Mike Johnson's response is presented, stating that Walls and Hegseth "shouldn't be disciplined" over the war plans leak.
- Jonathan expresses disbelief at Johnson's stance, contrasting it with Trump's 2016 promises of strict enforcement of classified information laws.
- Johnson's dismissal of accountability is seen as further evidence of hypocrisy and a lack of seriousness regarding national security.
Elon Musk's and The Economist's Dismissive Reactions
🎦 37:15-37:46⏩
- Elon Musk's dismissive tweet mocking The Atlantic is shown ("best place to hide a dead body is on page two of the Atlantic magazine").
- Musk's reaction is seen as echoing Trump's deflection by attacking the media outlet rather than addressing the substance of the issue.
- A tweet from The Economist (Shashank Joshi) is presented, sarcastically suggesting that putting classified information on unclassified systems is "just banter and very funny indeed".
- These reactions are characterized as "despicable" by Jonathan, highlighting the widespread downplaying of the serious security breach.
Right-Wing and Left-Wing Reactions and Cognitive Dissonance
🎦 37:46-39:55⏩
- Reactions from "cynical Publius" (right-wing) and "Tommy Vito" (left-wing, Pod Save America) are presented to illustrate different interpretations of the leak.
- Cynical Publius suggests the leak was intentional to send a message to Europe, a "ridiculous theorizing" and "post hoc rationalization".
- Tommy Vito points out the "incredible rationalizations" happening and links the incompetence to the appointment of unqualified individuals like Pete Hegseth.
- Jonathan introduces the concept of "cognitive dissonance" to explain the varied and often illogical reactions, particularly from Republicans trying to reconcile the evidence of incompetence with their positive view of the Trump administration.
Cognitive Dissonance Reduction Techniques
🎦 39:55-40:41⏩
- Jonathan explains "cognitive dissonance reduction" techniques being used to dismiss the Signal breach.
- These include "shooting the messenger" (discrediting Jeffrey Goldberg), adapting the message (claiming the leak was intentional and strategic "5D chess"), and other forms of rationalization.
- He highlights the various ways people are attempting to avoid confronting the reality of the serious security lapse and the incompetence it reveals.
Democratic Reactions and Pete Buttigieg's Strong Criticism
🎦 40:41-42:55⏩
- Democratic reactions are shown, starting with Pete Buttigieg, who strongly criticizes Trump and Musk for treating the situation as a "joke".
- Buttigieg emphasizes the real-world consequences of such incompetence for ordinary Americans and military personnel.
- He lists a series of examples of Trump administration "sloppiness and incompetence," including nuclear weapons safety, air traffic control issues, and financial miscalculations.
- Buttigieg stresses the "lethal" potential of powerful people not taking their responsibilities seriously.
Pete Buttigieg's Call for Accountability and Firing
🎦 42:55-43:48⏩
- Pete Buttigieg explicitly states that someone "should be fired" over the Signal breach.
- He asserts that such a mistake would lead to severe consequences in the military, including potential imprisonment.
- Buttigieg questions the "merit" based hiring claims of the administration, pointing to Hegseth's lack of qualifications for Secretary of Defense.
- He underscores the irresponsibility of putting someone without organizational experience in charge of the largest and most important organization in the US.
Republican and Democratic Agreement on Seriousness
🎦 43:48-44:54⏩
- Tom Slosyarz (Democrat) quotes Republican Senator Murkowski, who plainly states that if this were the Biden administration, "there would be hair on fire".
- Murkowski's comment highlights the bipartisan recognition of the seriousness of the breach, even if publicly downplayed by many Republicans.
- Democratic Governor J.B. Pritzker is quoted, emphasizing the compromise of national security and the potential danger to soldiers' lives due to the unsecured communication.
- Pritzker calls for firing Pete Hegseth, holding him directly responsible.
Reactions from Former Officials and UK Defence Secretary
🎦 44:54-47:26⏩
- A former military official is quoted stating that anyone in the military would face severe consequences ("Leavenworth") for such a security lapse.
- The point is made that the responsibility cannot be solely placed on Mike Walls; "all of them own it".
- Former UK Secretary of Defence Grant Shapps criticizes Trump envoy Witkoff, likely referencing Witkoff's presence in Moscow during the breach.
- Grant Shapps defends the UK's contribution to Red Sea security, pushing back against the "European freeloading" narrative emerging from the US administration.
European Defence and White House Reaction
🎦 47:26-52:08⏩
- Andrew Neil highlights the "visceral anti-Europeanism" revealed in the Signal chat, particularly J.D. Vance's opposition to Houthi strikes as benefiting Europe.
- Neil and Yaroslav Trofimov critique the flawed logic of viewing Houthi action solely through a US vs. Europe lens, ignoring the broader strategic implications.
- Guy Verhofstadt and Grant Shapps call for stronger European defence capabilities in response to the perceived US attitude.
- Lev Parnas suggests Trump is "furious" about the leak and Mike Walls might be the scapegoat.
- However, Kate Collins reports the White House expresses "utmost confidence" in Mike Walls, a statement seen as potentially precursory to his dismissal.
Potential Scapegoating and White House Dysfunction
🎦 52:08-53:08⏩
- Blake Allen suggests that J.D. Vance allies in the administration might push for Mike Walls to be scapegoated.
- Walls is described as relatively "sensible" on foreign policy compared to others in the administration.
- Politico reports that White House officials are uncertain if Walls can survive the scandal, with some calling his actions "reckless".
- The recklessness of using Signal for sensitive discussions and not checking chat participants is emphasized.
Wider Problem of Unsecured Communications
🎦 53:08-54:04⏩
- The discussion broadens to the likelihood of this Signal chat being just "the tip of the iceberg," suggesting widespread use of unsecured communication channels within the administration.
- A person close to the White House calls Mike Walls an "effing idiot," reflecting the internal condemnation.
- A UK former army member satirically responds to the "European freeloading" narrative, highlighting European contributions and sacrifices in US-led operations.
- The "European freeloading" rhetoric is criticized as offensive and inaccurate, especially to those who have served alongside US forces.
Concluding Thoughts and Potential Lack of Accountability
🎦 54:04-58:17⏩
- The Times Radio interview concludes by discussing the likely lack of accountability within the Trump administration.
- It is suggested that this administration is "ironclad" in its loyalty to Trump, making it unlikely heads will roll.
- The "dictatorship style" loyalty and suppression of dissent within the administration are noted.
- Despite internal disagreements and incompetence, the administration is expected to "sweep it under the rug" and avoid any real consequences.
Dictatorship Style and Erosion of Democracy
🎦 58:17-58:38⏩
- The discussion continues on the "dictatorship" like tendencies of the Trump administration, where critical voices are dismissed and accountability is avoided.
- The lack of critical journalists being given airtime and the presence of "appeasers" within the administration are highlighted as contributing to this problem.
- The administration's dismissal of critical questions is seen as eroding democratic accountability.
- Jonathan expresses a desire to be proven wrong and see accountability for the security breach.
Potential Scapegoat and Call for Viewer Comments
🎦 58:38-58:39⏩
- The possibility of Mike Walls being scapegoated is reiterated, despite him being potentially the "most sensible" of those involved.
- Jonathan concludes by asking viewers for their thoughts in the comments section.
Wrap up
🎦 58:39-58:39⏩
- Jonathan signs off and says goodbye to viewers.