Peace Negotiations Live Stream w/ Jonathan Fink:
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"Get involved, because if you don't, your democracy will slip away. And I think that's the lesson from Ukraine. Be active, be involved, change things."
Hello Team
🎦 00:00-00:45⏩
- Jonathan Pearce (ATP) welcomes viewers to a co-stream with Jonathan Fink (Silicon Curtain).
- He apologises for being slightly late due to a crucial delivery of soy milk, essential for his tea, without which he becomes "very angry" and "falls apart".
- Jonathan Fink jokingly confirms ATP can be "crabby".
Drone Strikes Hit Shahed Factory in Yelabuga, Tatarstan
🎦 00:45-04:43⏩
- ATP highlights recent Ukrainian success in hitting targets deep within Russia, specifically advocating for distance munition warfare.
- He notes the importance of striking Shahed drone manufacturing facilities, like the one in Yelabuga, Tatarstan.
- Recent activity suggests a significant strike occurred at Yelabuga (approx. 1150-1700km from the border).
- Reports (citing Nikolaevsky-Vanyok) indicate six drones, possibly carrying 250kg payloads, attacked the plant. Five reportedly hit the target, one was shot down.
- Images show slow, low-flying drones, raising questions about Russia's air defence coverage, even around critical sites. Some reports suggest a Pantsir-S1 failed to intercept.
- ATP notes a recent downtick, then an uptick, in Russian drone use, possibly linked to previous manufacturing hits. The recent Yelabuga strike is seen as vital.
- These strikes are crucial as Russian drone tactics have improved (higher penetration rates, better payloads, EW resistance), making interception harder and manufacturing disruption more critical.
Analysis: Why Ukraine is Striking Russian Facilities Now
🎦 04:43-06:25⏩
- Jonathan Fink suggests Ukraine may have been holding back on such strikes, perhaps partly out of deference while US aid/peace initiatives (like Trump's reported deal) were being discussed.
- Striking deep within Russia could be framed negatively by MAGA propagandists ("Look at Ukraine, they don't really want peace").
- Fink posits that Ukraine likely accrued the capability for these strikes during the hiatus.
- He questions if Ukraine will now resume targeting Russian energy infrastructure, suspecting they were "keeping its powder dry".
Workers at Yelabuga Shahed Factory: Students and African Immigrants
🎦 06:25-07:27⏩
- Discussion on the workforce at the Yelabuga facility.
- It's understood to employ African immigrants (particularly women) and students from a nearby college (framed as 'work experience' but akin to a sweatshop).
- An earlier, ineffective drone attack reportedly landed near worker dormitories.
- The latest imagery suggests the recent strike was more effective, with explosions and fire visible.
Effectiveness of Drones vs. Air Defence and Russian Coverage Gaps
🎦 07:27-10:47⏩
- Shahed drones cause significant mayhem, likely hitting unreported military targets and potentially degrading Ukrainian air defences (e.g., around Odesa).
- Responding to a viewer question (Tom NPS), ATP clarifies modern air defences are effective against drones, but it's often uneconomical (e.g., using expensive Patriot missiles against cheap drones).
- Fink outlines a "perfect storm" for Ukraine's air defence: increased Shahed volume, refined Russian tactics (using drones to deplete defences before missile strikes), and fewer Western interceptors.
- ATP elaborates on improved Russian tactics: accumulating drones over the Black Sea before launching swarm attacks from multiple altitudes, including daytime strikes (e.g., Kharkiv).
- The success of the long-range Yelabuga strike highlights poor Russian air defence coverage over its vast territory.
- ATP uses the analogy of a blanket too small for the bed: Russia lacks sufficient air defence units, and moving them to protect one area exposes another.
- Even if Pantsir systems are capable, questions remain about their numbers, positioning, and maintenance.
Air Defence Priorities: Protecting Military Objectives vs. Civilians
🎦 10:47-12:16⏩
- Fink discusses the difficult choice Ukraine faced during ammunition shortages: prioritising air defence for military objectives (like protecting forces, shooting down aircraft) over civilian areas. Strategically better, but a choice no one wants to make.
- He contrasts this with Russia, arguing they prioritise protecting the elite (nomenclature) and military objectives, with little consideration for civilians.
- Despite this potentially simpler strategic calculation, Russia struggles to protect critical military and economic infrastructure (e.g., oil refineries) due to the vast territory and number of sites.
Anticipated Increase in Ukrainian Strikes on Russian Targets
🎦 12:16-13:12⏩
- Fink expects a dramatic increase in Ukrainian offensive action against Russian "soft targets" (military, energy infrastructure) if the US 'peace deal' fails, which he suspects was "dead on arrival".
- He notes Ukraine will want to ensure European support remains solid, questioning London's current stance and whether European capitals have been influenced by the US peace initiative narrative.
Managing Trolls During the Live Stream
🎦 13:12-13:34⏩
- ATP points out a troll ("Akinvala") spamming the chat.
- Fink confirms he moderates his own stream and will deal with it.
Details of the US-Proposed 'Peace Deal' and Initial Reactions
🎦 13:34-15:53⏩
- ATP outlines the reported US peace plan, allegedly originating from a Putin proposal via Witkoff.
- Key elements: Freeze current lines, Russia keeps occupied areas of Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, Kherson; Ukraine keeps unoccupied parts. Russia gains de jure control of Crimea. Ukraine stays out of NATO, possibly with reduced forces.
- The US reportedly formulated this into a plan, which was leaked.
- President Zelensky rejected it immediately, citing constitutional impossibility of ceding territory, particularly Crimea.
- Consequently, Marco Rubio and Steve Witkoff reportedly cancelled high-level talks in London, likely fearing failure and appearing weak. Lower-level delegations met instead.
- ATP presents two interpretations of US actions: 1) Extreme naivety about Ukraine's red lines, or 2) Deliberately setting Ukraine up to look intransigent, thereby justifying a US withdrawal and blaming Ukraine.
Analysis: US Motives for the 'Peace Deal' - Naivety or Strategic Blame?
🎦 15:53-19:15⏩
- Fink strongly supports the second interpretation: Trump wants a deal not for Ukraine's benefit, but for self-aggrandisement (Nobel Prize, base kudos). Ukraine is seen as a barrier.
- He suggests Russia uses illusory "deals" (trade, minerals) as bait for Trump, despite minimal pre-war US-Russia trade. Trump may see opportunities for personal enrichment (crypto schemes, Trump Tower Moscow).
- This ignores Putin's likely lack of genuine interest in peace unless forced by economic pressure; his maximalist goals likely remain.
- Fink suggests the US team either naively thought Ukraine would comply (showing ignorance of Ukrainian mindset/history) or didn't care if Ukraine refused, intending to blame them and restart relations with Russia regardless.
- He argues the US and Russia are "functionally colluding," with the US essentially presenting Russia's demands as its own plan.
US Acting as Russian Proxy? Zelensky Ready to Negotiate, Not Surrender
🎦 19:15-22:01⏩
- ATP quotes a Guardian live feed: "Ukraine is ready to negotiate, but not to surrender." Fink agrees, stating no deal should allow Russia to regroup for future violence.
- ATP believes the US-Russia plan was designed knowing Ukraine couldn't accept it, providing an "off-ramp" for the US.
- He contrasts this with Trump's pre-election threats to punish whichever side dragged its heels – in reality, aid to Ukraine stopped regardless, while Russia faced no consequences for intransigence.
- The current situation allows the US to capitulate to Russian demands and exit a difficult problem. ATP calls it an "absolute disgrace".
- ATP refers to a statement from Yulia Svyrydenko (Ukrainian delegation) demanding a full ceasefire as a first step. Zelensky is reportedly insisting on this, likely to put the onus on Moscow to prove its peaceful intent.
- Fink argues Zelensky is cornered and must shape a narrative where Ukraine remains the victim, countering potential MAGA media framing of Ukraine as "war hungry". He mentions Tim Pool being in the Oval Office as evidence of media capture.
JD Vance Confirms 'Explicit Proposal'; Threatens US Withdrawal
🎦 22:01-23:21⏩
- ATP notes the significance of the US calling it an "explicit deal".
- He quotes JD Vance: "We've issued a very explicit proposal to both the Russians and the Ukrainians, and it's time for them to either say yes or for the United States to walk away from the process."
- Fink interprets this as simply seeking permission to walk away, aligning with Vance's known anti-Ukraine stance.
Potential Consequences of US Withdrawal: Impact on Aid and Intelligence
🎦 23:21-24:25⏩
- ATP poses the key question: If the US walks away, how much will they punish Ukraine (cutting aid, intelligence) and reward Russia (lifting sanctions, providing assistance)?
- He speculates on whether the US would formally align with Russia and the potential reaction within the US Department of Defense (DOD).
- The dilemma for US officials: loyalty to the constitution vs. loyalty to Trump.
US Political Climate: Lack of Mass Resistance, Reliance on Constitution
🎦 24:25-28:01⏩
- Fink believes significant resistance within the US system is unlikely soon. Many are waiting for constitutional/legal avenues (midterms, court cases like Harvard's) rather than organising mass resistance ("no American Maidan anytime soon").
- Potential triggers for resistance could be a Trump third-term attempt or a severe recession (which Fink suggests Trump may be triggering).
- He contrasts this with the UK (e.g., during Brexit), where cross-party breaks based on values occurred, though not enough to change the outcome. The US seems more reliant on the "magical constitution" doing the work.
- Fink argues Trump lacks an electoral mandate for his drastic actions, a concept seemingly less discussed in the US context compared to the UK.
- He concludes Europe and Ukraine must figure things out themselves, excluding the US, anticipating withdrawal of intelligence and military support. The US targeting data has been crucial for Ukraine.
Influence of US Business Leaders on Trump's Policies (e.g., Tariffs)
🎦 28:01-31:12⏩
- ATP mentions Anthony Scaramucci's view that many US CEOs are close to publicly denouncing Trump.
- Trump reportedly caved on China tariffs recently due to business pressure, potentially averting some public CEO criticism.
- Trump also paused Canadian/Mexican tariffs under pressure. Closed-door talks with CEOs seem influential, boosting markets when trade war fears ease.
- ATP believes markets and the business community are key levers on Trump's behaviour, though unlikely to change his stance on Ukraine.
Trump's Inconsistency and its Impact on Business Confidence and Global Economy
🎦 31:12-32:39⏩
- Fink argues that CEO criticism won't solve the underlying issue: the endless cycle of chaos and policy flip-flopping under Trump.
- Until Trump is removed, the destruction continues. Business relies on consistency and trust, both eroded by Trump's behaviour.
- This loss of trust inevitably leads towards recession, potentially depression. The negative economic impact may already be "baked in" due to the slow-moving nature of the global economy (like an oil tanker).
Kremlin's Success: Decoupling the US from Europe
🎦 32:39-33:44⏩
- ATP highlights a viewer comment: "Putin has told Trump to separate from Europe. It's happening."
- He agrees this decoupling is a major success for the Kremlin.
- This aligns with Trump's own views: he dislikes the EU (seeing it as a competitor/adversary) and alliances generally. Trump supported Brexit to undermine the EU, not out of concern for the UK.
US/MAGA Mission: Eroding Rule of Law and Interfering in Democracies
🎦 33:44-35:45⏩
- Fink argues Trump and Putin share the goal of undermining the EU, possibly for similar reasons: removing obstacles to their power.
- Putin sees the EU as a physical, economic, and military barrier (via NATO members) to Russian expansionism and a promoter of the rule of law.
- Trump, Musk, and their acolytes also seek to erode the rule of law and institutions that constrain personal power.
- Fink recounts a conversation with Jake Brough, who stressed that MAGA's mission is to interfere in other democracies, deconstruct institutions, replace politicians with "venal right-wing grifters," and degrade nations to prevent resistance to corruption.
- In this sense, Trump's motives align strongly with Putin's. ATP concurs.
Addressing Trolls: Good Faith vs. Paid Disinformation
🎦 35:45-38:15⏩
- ATP points out another troll ("Ivan?") making bad-faith arguments ("go enlist").
- ATP responds personally: he cannot enlist due to Multiple Sclerosis but actively supports Ukraine through his channel, visits, and fundraising (approx. $250k raised across campaigns). Fink has also visited multiple times.
- ATP condemns the troll's actions as paid disinformation for Russia, contrasting it with their own genuine efforts.
- He argues against engaging with bad-faith actors, stating they aren't interested in real discussion. Shutting down trolls is justified.
- Fink agrees, linking it to freedom of speech: bad-faith, paid disinformation is not legitimate speech but an attack, like a Russian tank. He asserts his right to control his own space (channel) and exclude such voices. ATP adds: "He can F off."
Philosophical Debate: Freedom of Speech - US Absolutism vs. European Nuance
🎦 38:15-44:02⏩
- Fink raises the philosophical difference in free speech concepts: US libertarian absolutism vs. UK/European view incorporating responsibilities and limits (e.g., hate speech laws, laws against threats).
- He argues absolute free speech can lead to declining freedom for the majority as discourse gets polluted by toxicity.
- This nuanced debate seems absent in the US, even among allies.
- Fink mentions JD Vance reportedly tying UK trade deals to adopting the US tech-libertarian view of free speech, which Fink argues isn't real freedom ("Paid speech is not free speech").
- ATP delves deeper philosophically:
- Rights (including free speech, human rights) are mental constructs, not objective realities (conceptual nominalism). They exist because we agree on them and codify/enforce them via laws.
- "Inalienable rights" arguments often involve double standards (e.g., denying them to non-citizens).
- Absolute free speech is unworkable; we constantly regulate speech (e.g., broadcast standards, school rules). The contention lies at the edges of the "bell curve" of what's acceptable.
- Often, people want freedom mainly to insult others.
- He points out the hypocrisy of Vance demanding libertarian free speech while the US government interferes with university freedoms (hiring, curriculum) and Trump attacks critical press/threatens lawsuits (CBS).
Distinguishing Free Speech from Propaganda and State-Sponsored Disinformation
🎦 44:02-47:37⏩
- Fink recalls a Q&A question: the distinction between free speech and propaganda, and why the latter should be tolerated.
- ATP relates this to the "good faith interlocutor" concept. He used to engage with controversial ideas (racism, gun rights) on his old blog, treating proponents as good faith actors to deconstruct their arguments publicly as a learning exercise.
- However, the current geopolitical context involves paid state actors spreading disinformation, not good faith debate.
- ATP reiterates: allowing state-sponsored disinformation is akin to allowing a physical invasion (tank). It's an information weapon used by a state actor to cause harm.
- Fink uses an analogy: allowing disinformation is like willingly letting viruses infect your "informational organism" – a form of "collective insanity".
Rights vs. Morality: The Difference Between Having a Right and Doing What's Right
🎦 47:37-49:18⏩
- ATP emphasizes the distinction between having a right to do something (legal/ethical construct) and whether it is right (moral question).
- He recalls politicians deflecting moral questions by asserting their rights.
- He uses a humorous, hypothetical (and legally dubious) example: having the right to defecate on his own front lawn versus whether it is right to do so (considering neighbours like poor Doris). One must differentiate rights from what is good and proper.
- Fink jokes about ATP finishing off the Pope with such a display outside St Peter's Basilica.
Implications of Ceding Crimea: Dismantling International Law
🎦 49:18-51:14⏩
- Fink returns to the peace deal: If Ukraine were pressured into ceding Crimea, it would violate international law principles.
- Even a de facto acceptance, let alone de jure, would effectively dismantle the post-WWII international legal architecture.
- He believes Ukraine will decline the deal based on Zelensky's statements.
- He expresses concern about potentially weak stances in Europe, mentioning "troubling noises" suggesting the UK Foreign Office might accept ceding Crimea if Ukraine agreed.
- He questions if the deal is dead if Ukraine says no, given the non-negotiable core tenets.
Clarification: 'London Talks' Driven by US, Not Europe
🎦 51:14-52:27⏩
- ATP corrects a commenter blaming Europe ("Europe is all talk, London talks went nowhere").
- He stresses the initiative was US-driven ("US nonsense," "US's bullshit deal"), using London merely as a venue. The failure reflects US actions and Ukrainian/European rejection, not European inaction.
- Fink agrees, describing it as the US pushing Russia's agenda, others refusing, and the US sulking.
- ATP acknowledges Europe can be slow due to consensus-building ("herding cats").
Ukraine's Right to Self-Determination vs. External Pressure
🎦 52:27-53:28⏩
- ATP revisits the diplomat's hypothetical "if Ukraine are up for it" stance on Crimea.
- He states that while he wouldn't support ceding Crimea, if Ukrainians genuinely agreed through some popular consensus, that would be an act of self-determination.
- The West cannot champion Ukraine's self-determination and then deny their right to make a decision, even a disagreeable one.
- He suggests a de facto acceptance (acknowledging current control without transferring sovereignty) might have been a difficult possibility, leaving room for future change.
Alternatives to NATO: The Need for Robust Security Guarantees
🎦 53:28-54:14⏩
- Fink discusses the other condition: NATO membership off the table.
- He argues that with the US potentially turning NATO into a "zombie institution," membership might not offer real security anyway.
- Real security would come from a "coalition of the willing" (UK, France, Germany, Balts, Nordics etc.) providing tangible support like closing the sky.
- Until such a coalition forms, Ukraine's security depends largely on its own efforts.
Ukrainian Delegation Statement: Negotiate, Not Surrender; Conditions for Peace
🎦 54:14-56:16⏩
- ATP reads the full statement attributed to Yulia Svyrydenko (First Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine) from the London meeting:
- "Ukraine is ready to negotiate, but not to give up." (The US plan required giving up).
- No deal allowing Russia to regroup for more violence.
- A complete ceasefire (land, air, sea) is the necessary first step. Limited pauses met with limited pauses.
- Ukrainians won't accept a frozen conflict disguised as peace.
- Occupation of Crimea will never be recognised.
- If no NATO membership, Ukraine needs mandatory, strong security guarantees to deter future aggression and ensure lasting peace.
- ATP emphasizes the key point: if not NATO, then functionally equivalent guarantees are needed, involving the US. The US cannot dictate terms without providing the means for security.
- He argues the US has a duty (Budapest Memorandum, Cold War history) to assist Ukraine more than it currently is.
Analysis: Trump's Preference for Ukrainian Capitulation vs. Resistance
🎦 56:16-59:26⏩
- Fink connects Svyrydenko's "not give up" line to Trump's apparent desire for Ukraine to have capitulated immediately in 2022.
- Trump recently blamed Zelensky and Biden for handling the invasion "horribly".
- ATP questions what non-horrible alternative Trump envisioned, given Zelensky's heroic defence. The only alternative was immediate surrender.
- Trump's words imply he wished Ukraine had simply given up, avoiding the "horrible death" (by accepting subjugation instead).
- Fink clarifies this wouldn't have stopped the killing, merely moved it "outside the limelight," allowing the West to ignore it.
Subtext Analysis: Why Some Prefer Capitulation - Avoiding Responsibility
- Fink argues the subtext behind calls for Ukraine to stop fighting is a desire for the conflict (and its moral demands) to disappear from Western consciousness.
- He paraphrases this implicit sentiment: "Why don't you die quietly? ... Why do you have to fight back and constantly prick our conscience? ... We want to carry on living our immoral, vacuous lives, not having to think about these horrible things or take any responsibility for them."
Trump Quote Blaming Zelensky/Biden for War's Start
- ATP quotes Trump: "President Zelensky and Crooker Joe Biden did an absolutely horrible job in allowing this travesty to begin."
- He questions how Zelensky could be blamed for starting the war between 2019-2022, unless Trump means Zelensky not providing dirt on Biden.
- Fink dismisses Trump's critique as lacking substance, reason, or understanding of history/context. He argues Trump never provides specifics.
- If Trump had offered specific critiques (e.g., about Kyiv fortifications, mobilization, Soviet mentality, or Biden's level of aid), it might be debatable.
- Fink asserts Trump's real motivation is simple: Zelensky and Biden aren't financially beneficial to him and aren't "on his team," therefore they are enemies.
US Disbands Unit Investigating Russian War Crimes
- ATP adds that the US reportedly disbanded the unit compiling evidence of Russian war crimes against Ukraine, further suggesting US alignment with Russia.
- Fink recalls they also tried to shut down the Yale unit investigating kidnapped children, only reviving it temporarily under pressure to transfer data.
- He argues the Trump administration doesn't care about Russian crimes; indeed, they want to cover them up as they are an embarrassment and reminder of the need to act against tyrants.
- Trump aspires to be a tyrant ("Putin's apprentice"), so they are complicit in helping Russia hide evidence.
- This means the US under Trump will make no effort towards accountability or reparations. Justice is outside their framework.
Hypothetical: Applying Trump's Capitulation Logic to a US Invasion
- ATP satirically applies Trump's logic: If he (ATP) announced an invasion of the US, Trump's "non-horrible" response should be immediate capitulation.
- He jokes about demanding the entire US (minus the debt) and Trump agreeing, making Americans his loyal subjects.
- He promises to be a "benign dictator".
Ideas for Political Reform: Compulsory Voting and Campaign Finance
- Continuing the satirical tangent, Fink suggests "free compulsory beer" under ATP's rule.
- ATP seriously proposes compulsory voting for the first election after turning 18 (like Australia) to engage young people.
- Fink proposes radical reform: no political funding, adults get vouchers to join/found parties, proportional representation, aiming for a "true democracy" by removing money. He acknowledges this would be controversial.
Fundraising Update: 'Trucks for Ukraine' Campaign Status
- Transition to the ongoing '69th Sniffing Brigade' truck fundraising campaign.
- ATP notes he has hit his target (£5k for one vehicle).
- Fink celebrates overtaking ATP on the leaderboard (currently 6th vs ATP's 7th) after being away. He aims for 4th place ("champions are made of").
- Friendly banter ensues about the competition. ATP appeals to his audience to donate via atpg.com/donate.
- Fink is fundraising for two vehicles (£10k target). He thanks a large anonymous donor (€2300) who helped him surge ahead, noting similar large donations on other pages.
- They emphasize that all donations, large or small (£10/$10), are hugely appreciated. Fink highlights the impact seen on the ground.
- ATP asks if Fink would drive the trucks over again. Fink gives a "qualified yes," citing potential domestic issues but expressing a real desire to do it.
Anecdote: Russian Ceasefire Violations - FPV Drone Attacks
- Fink shares an anecdote illustrating Russia's lack of genuine interest in peace/ceasefires.
- A friend's vehicle near the front was hit twice by FPV drones during a supposed ceasefire; luckily, the munitions were duds. A third drone exploded nearby.
Reports of Explosions in Moscow City
- While Fink coughs, ATP relays a live chat report of powerful explosions in Moscow City, possibly a car bomb in an underground car park. (Needs verification).
Lack of Mainstream Coverage of Putin Limo Incident
- They discuss the recent incident involving Putin's limo catching fire/exploding.
- ATP notes it received little coverage in mainstream UK media, despite being potentially significant news.
- Fink mentions ambiguity over whether it was accidental or sabotage (he leans towards the latter) but notes the story quickly disappeared.
YouTube Strategy Discussion: Authenticity vs. Algorithm/Clickbait
- Fink reflects on the limo story video: he produced it quickly (15 mins script vs usual hours), late at night, yet it got huge views (440k).
- This created a "moral dilemma" for him: the tension between producing quick, potentially clickbaity content that performs well versus more researched, journalistic analysis. He felt undeserving of the success for the low-effort video.
- ATP describes his own approach: authentic, whatever's in his head, variable length ("10 minutes if you're lucky, 2 hours if you're unlucky"), no real strategy for growth, just reacting to news compulsively ("verbal dumping").
Balancing Content Creation and Personal/Family Life
- Fink acknowledges the need for balance, trying to keep weekends/dinner times clear for family, as goodwill is "in short supply" after long hours and trips to Ukraine put him "in the doghouse".
- ATP jokes about his video length ("tantric in my approach to geopolitics"), leading to banter about needing a "happy end".
ATP Personal Update: MS, Stem Cell Therapy in Moscow, COVID Vaccines
- ATP explains why he needs frequent COVID vaccines: he has progressive Multiple Sclerosis (MS).
- He underwent stem cell therapy (HSCT) in Moscow in 2019, which involved immunosuppression (destroying and rebooting his immune system). This has kept his progressive MS on a plateau since.
- He acknowledges the irony and the debt owed to the excellent Russian medical unit, but doubts he'd be welcome back now due to his outspokenness on the war. Fink agrees, joking about polonium in his drip.
- Because of the immunosuppression, he qualifies for frequent COVID boosters (like the over-75s). He's off to get another one shortly.
ATP's Afternoon Plans: COVID Vaccine and Family Time (Board Game)
- After his vaccine, ATP plans to play a new board game ("Thunder Road Vendetta" - Mad Max style car combat) with his twin boys when they get home from their first day back at school.
- He jokes about enforcing enjoyment ("forced fun").
Fink's Afternoon Plans: Parliament Event on Stolen Ukrainian Children
- Fink contrasts ATP's plans by revealing he is going to Parliament for an important event focusing on Ukrainian children abducted by Russia.
- ATP jokingly accuses him of moral one-upmanship.
- Fink elaborates: the event features campaigners (including a Scottish Labour MP) discussing the abduction, brainwashing, and intended militarisation of these children by Russia.
- It aims to raise awareness and keep the issue of justice, particularly the return of these children, in the public spotlight.
- Fink notes the lack of Western media traction for this story, despite its horror. He plans to interview attendees for his channel.
- He reiterates the importance of justice in any peace discussion, noting it's absent from the US deal and that the Trump team simply "don't care". He considers Keith Kellogg potentially sympathetic but compromised/sidelined. Marco Rubio is singled out for hypocrisy, given his past statements.
Thanks to Channel Supporters and Members
- ATP thanks several viewers for their support:
- John Scott (for Fink)
- Richard Bennett (memberships)
- Kevin Force (memberships)
- Ozzy T (long-term member)
- Dunkonu (support, often seen with Greg Terry)
- Linda S (membership gifts, often seen with Greg Terry)
- Harry Morse sends thanks from the US, saying the channels fill a void.
Final Thoughts: Importance of Justice, Call to Political Action
- Fink urges continued support for Ukraine beyond donations: reaching out locally, contacting representatives, stressing the issue's importance.
- He calls for greater political involvement, even if parties are imperfect. Join them, change them, add your voice – don't let extremists dominate.
- He concludes: "Get involved, because if you don't, your democracy will slip away. And I think that's the lesson from Ukraine."
Wrap up
- ATP thanks Fink and the audience.
- Closing remarks: Toodlepips and Slava Ukraini / Heroyam Slava.
🤖❓ AI Debrief (post task) - anything the AI didn't understand
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