Techno-Fascism: What's Really Going on with Big Tech and Our Governments
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"Data rights are human rights."
Hello Team
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- Jonathan introduces the video as a US Politics Extra, focusing on what he believes is happening behind the scenes in American politics and government.
Introducing the 'Broligarchy': Zuckerberg, Altman, Musk, Thiel, Sachs, Cook
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- The video will discuss the 'Broligarchy' – wealthy billionaire oligarchs in the tech industry.
- Key figures mentioned: Mark Zuckerberg (Meta), Sam Altman (OpenAI), Elon Musk (X), Peter Thiel (Palantir, PayPal), David Sachs, and Tim Cook (Apple).
- These individuals are involved in the American economy and political scene.
Data Harvesting: The Central Goal Driving Big Tech's Political Influence
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- Jonathan posits that large-scale data harvesting is a key factor driving the involvement of tech oligarchs in politics.
- He suggests a potentially dangerous situation is unfolding.
- He mentions "Doge" (potentially Department of Government Efficiency or similar initiative) being central to the American government, not necessarily for genuine efficiency but to remove obstacles to data harvesting and power consolidation.
- Cuts are being made to entities that hinder "Doge" from generating more data and gaining power/money, rather than focusing on genuine government efficiency.
Assault on Consumer Protection: The Gutting of the CFPB
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- Jonathan highlights the decimation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) as a significant example.
- Worker numbers have reportedly been slashed from around 1,700 to potentially only 200 remaining.
- The purpose of the CFPB is to protect consumers from large corporate entities, ensuring fair treatment regarding data, pricing, and rights.
- Jonathan argues this destruction of the CFPB leaves consumers vulnerable.
- The CFPB will be unable to effectively oversee financial institutions or regulate companies scamming consumers.
- He quotes 'More Perfect Union' interviewing a fired CFPB worker who stated consumers are being left undefended, allowing companies (like those run by Elon Musk) to commit financial abuse, potentially including data harvesting.
Mark Zuckerberg: Courting Trump Amidst FTC Antitrust Lawsuit
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- Jonathan discusses Mark Zuckerberg's presence, along with other tech leaders (Altman, Cook, Musk), at Donald Trump's inauguration.
- Zuckerberg reportedly donated $1 million to Trump, despite many right-wing Trump supporters disliking him (blaming Facebook for issues post-2020 election).
- This attempt to cozy up to Trump appears related to an ongoing FTC antitrust lawsuit seeking to force Meta (Zuckerberg) to divest Instagram and WhatsApp.
- The FTC, SEC, and CFPB are organisations meant to protect consumers and prevent monopolies, but they are under pressure.
- The FTC lawsuit, filed April 14th (year not specified, implied recent), alleges Meta's acquisitions of Instagram (2012) and WhatsApp (2014) stifled competition and created a monopoly, despite initial approval.
- The FTC argues the purchases were to neutralise competitive threats, citing a quote attributed to Zuckerberg: "It's better to buy it than to compete." (Source: Rebecca Hall-Allensworth, Vanderbilt University, via BBC).
- Meta argues the purchases benefited consumers and Instagram's success is due to Meta's support.
- The Wall Street Journal reported Zuckerberg allegedly pressured Trump during his first term to drop the lawsuit. Meta denies this.
- The relationship soured after Facebook suspended Trump following the Capitol riot (2021).
- Trump recently dismissed two FTC commissioners, potentially influencing the situation.
Complex Dynamics: Trump, Deregulation, and Big Tech Influence
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- Jonathan highlights the contradiction: Trump is trying to deregulate and dismantle regulatory bodies (like the FTC), partly influenced by tech figures like Zuckerberg and Musk who want exactly that.
- At the same time, the FTC is pursuing antitrust action against Meta.
- Jonathan refers to a paywalled Wall Street Journal story detailing Zuckerberg's efforts to influence Trump.
- Meta reportedly offered £450 million to settle the FTC antitrust case, far less than the £30 billion demanded by the FTC and a fraction of Instagram/WhatsApp's value.
- Zuckerberg apparently felt confident Trump would back him, citing his $1 million inauguration donation and a $25 million lawsuit settlement as evidence of closer ties.
- This highlights potential 'quid pro quo' dynamics.
Offline Podcast Clip: Silicon Valley 'Burned' by Trump Despite Courting Him
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- Jonathan notes the tension: Trump's base dislikes Zuckerberg, putting pressure on Trump not to favour him.
- He plays a clip from the 'Offline with Jon Favreau' podcast (part of Pod Save America).
- The speakers (Jon Favreau and co-presenter) discuss how not just Zuckerberg, but all of Silicon Valley, is getting 'burned' by Trump in his second term.
- They express little sympathy ("Fuck you. They knew better"), arguing the tech elite understood Trump's nature.
- Trump's policies (tariffs, risk of recession, high rates, China's rare earth ban impacting semiconductors, immigration policies contrary to promises like 'stapling green cards to diplomas') have been disastrous for Big Tech's business models and the startup economy.
- Silicon Valley thought they could have the benefits of Biden's economy while getting rid of regulations (FTC, chip export bans, crypto regulation) and perceived 'woke stuff' under Trump, but it backfired.
- They were primarily annoyed about regulation and cultural issues ("pronouns and bio", "woke stuff CEI").
Big Tech's Miscalculation: Trying to Co-opt Authoritarianism
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- The podcast clip continues: The speakers argue Silicon Valley made a historical mistake, common among big business dealing with rising authoritarians.
- They think they can get 'on the inside', cut deals with dictators for favourable treatment, and exist outside the law.
- This desire to make authoritarianism work for them 'never ever works'.
- Jonathan comments that this is what they appear to be trying with 'techno-fascism', particularly regarding data harvesting and control.
- The podcast explains why it fails: dictators destroy the rule of law and functioning markets (needed for business) due to cronyism, corruption, and suppressing dissent.
- It's an old story: businesses back dictators and get burned.
- They argue Trump is particularly bad because he's seen as "dumb as a stump and a lunatic", and tech/finance people rationalised supporting him despite knowing this.
- They chose to ignore clear warnings about his policies (e.g., tariffs).
- The tech figures thought they could control the situation and make it work for them, but it never works out as planned.
Disturbing Insight: Introducing Peter Thiel's Palantir (Video Clip)
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- Jonathan transitions, stating that despite the podcast's view, there are disturbing developments regarding tech trying to use authoritarianism.
- He introduces a clip from a longer video about Peter Thiel's company, Palantir, calling it one of the most disturbing things viewers might watch.
- He plans to play the first five minutes and then skip ahead.
Palantir's Modus Operandi: Data Analysis, Surveillance, and 'Domination' (Video Clip)
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- (Video Clip Content):
- The video discusses Palantir, a company dealing with lethal surveillance technologies used in war zones.
- It frames Palantir as seeking to become the ultimate military contractor and arbiter of data, capitalizing on normalized government surveillance and military spending.
- Palantir CEO Alex Karp is quoted saying Palantir helps institutions become the best, and "when it's necessary to scare enemies and on occasion kill them."
- Palantir's shares surged due to demand for its AI software from the US government. Karp says, "We're doing it."
- Palantir uses data analysis and AI for clients like the DoD, FBI, police, IRS, and even Wendy's, collecting vast amounts of information to draw conclusions and reconfigure organisations' realities and biases.
- A former employee is interviewed. Palantir is said to capitalize on fear, uncertainty, and unrest. Karp: "I don't think in win-lose. I think in domination." "Bad times are very good for Palantir."
- Palantir's origin is linked to post-9/11 surveillance expansion and the "PayPal Mafia" (Thiel, Musk, Hoffman). Thiel used PayPal's fraud detection concepts for Palantir.
- Co-founder Alex Karp has a PhD in neoclassical social theory. The company is named after Tolkien's seeing stones (Palantiri), powerful but potentially dangerous objects used for remote viewing/prediction.
- Palantir uses "predicate-based research" – analysing individuals' life data for indicators of "bad behavior". They make software for data collection, analysis, and action (with/without AI).
- By 2013, clients included FBI, CIA, NSA, Marines, Air Force, Special Ops Command. Karp implies Palantir involvement in tracking/killing Osama bin Laden (saying there's a "two-thirds chance" they are involved in such news events).
- The company culture is described as militaristic, focused on solving hard problems and supporting Western institutions. Karp: "If you do not feel comfortable supporting the legitimate efforts of America and its allies in the context of war, don't join Palantir."
- Palantir promotes itself as lethal and capable of surveillance. They developed a system internally called "Kill Chain".
- (Jonathan's Commentary): He finds the content worrying, emphasizing their goal is data.
Palantir and the Trump Administration: An Ideal Customer Relationship
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- Jonathan connects Palantir's goals with Elon Musk's actions with "Doge".
- Palantir gained contracts with the Trump administration and US government (e.g., IRS support).
- (Video Clip Content):
- Palantir replaced Ford Motors in the S&P 100 months after Trump's election.
- The Trump administration is described as an "ideal customer" for Palantir.
- Many former Palantir employees were in the Trump administration (inside "Doge", foreign policy, tech roles).
- Co-founder Peter Thiel heavily invested in Palantir and was a major donor to Trump and VP Vance.
Palantir's Aim: Becoming the US Government's Central Operating System
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- (Video Clip Content):
- "Doge's" stated goal of streamlining government data aligns perfectly with Palantir's services.
- Karp speaks about disruption exposing failings, mentioning "revolution" and people getting "heads cut off".
- Palantir CTO Shams Ankar (2021) stated their mission: "becoming the U.S. government's central operating system," extending across defense, healthcare, and civilian agencies.
- (Jonathan's Commentary):
- He highlights the disturbing quote about "heads cut off".
- He notes the connections: Peter Thiel (Palantir) was JD Vance's (VP) mentor and funded his political rise via his hedge fund.
- (Video Clip Content Continues):
- Palantir wants all government data (defense, healthcare, civilian) funnelled through them.
- They already have IRS contracts, using data to find easy audits.
- Wired reported "Doge" will likely hire Palantir to create unified IRS software (a "mega API"), giving access to view/alter all IRS data in one place.
- The speaker who reported the Wired article states Palantir could essentially become the government, controlling information, interpretation, and decision-making. "They would be the government." This is described as "science fiction become fact".
Palantir: Running Government, Battlefields and Personal Lives
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- Jonathan notes the Palantir video continues for another five minutes and will "scare the bejesus out of you".
- He quotes the video maker ("Guy"): "We're on the brink of Palantir running the government, running the battlefield, and running our personal lives."
- Palantir is targeting government, defence, and oversight over personal lives via data.
Introducing Carole Cadwalladr's TED Talk: Warning About Technology and Democracy
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- Jonathan introduces journalist Carole Cadwalladr, known for her work exposing Russian interference, data manipulation (Cambridge Analytica), and connections to Brexit and the 2016 US election.
- He mentions her difficult legal battle with Aaron Banks.
- She gave a new, highly anticipated (and anxiety-inducing for her) TED Talk about Big Tech and data, which Jonathan describes as incredible and scary.
- He plays clips from her talk.
- (Carole Cadwalladr TED Talk Clip):
- She refers to her previous warning that democracy might not survive the technology being built. She personally almost didn't survive the aftermath.
- She states her warnings are coming true. Democracy is on the line due to techno-fascism.
- She acknowledges the audience might feel denial, confusion, and powerlessness, but urges action now.
- She frames her talk as a guide to fighting back, starting with naming the problem: "It's a coup."
- "We can't fight it if we can't see it, and we can't see it if we don't name it."
Cadwalladr: Naming the 'Coup' and the 'Broligarchy' Playbook
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- (Carole Cadwalladr TED Talk Clip):
- She notes Russian and American presidents (Putin and Trump implied) are speaking the same words, telling the same lies.
- This represents the collapse of the international order in real-time. "Coups are like concrete. When they stop moving, they set."
- She shows an image of tech leaders at Trump's inauguration ("tech bros in hostage situations"), calling it "Putin's playbook": allow a business elite riches in exchange for absolute loyalty.
- She calls this phenomenon affecting global platforms "broligarchy".
- (Jonathan's Commentary):
- He confirms the image showed Bezos, Zuckerberg, Musk etc. supporting Trump for perceived self-interest.
- He clarifies the 'Offline' podcast point: tech isn't doing well due to Trump's economic decisions (trade wars), not necessarily regulatory ones. The move towards authoritarianism might still benefit them. Trump went "off script" with trade wars.
- (Carole Cadwalladr TED Talk Clip continues):
- She emphasizes following the data: "This is all about the data."
- There's an alignment of interests from Silicon Valley to a coming autocracy.
- This represents a type of power never seen before.
Cadwalladr: 'It's Always the Data' - The Crack Cocaine of Silicon Valley
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- (Carole Cadwalladr TED Talk Clip):
- "It's always the data. It's the crack cocaine of Silicon Valley."
- She cites Elon Musk sending "cyber troops" into the US Treasury to get data access as a "hack", not a coincidence.
- This data feeds AIs choosing who to sack ("eliminate fraud and waste").
- The Cambridge Analytica scandal (harvesting 87 million Facebook profiles) was "chicken feed" compared to current data harvesting, but it provided the blueprint.
- "It's always the data."
Cadwalladr: Living in the 'Architecture of Totalitarianism' - Surveillance Capitalism vs. the Stasi
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- (Carole Cadwalladr TED Talk Clip):
- The "broligarchy" doesn't want individuals to have a private life.
- She compares the East German Stasi (files on 1 in 3 citizens) unfavourably to Google and hundreds of other companies' data collection on everyone. "That is nothing compared to what Google has".
- "The entire business model of Silicon Valley is surveillance." Data is harvested to sell things.
- "We are already living inside the architecture of totalitarianism."
- Even if unintentional, we must act as if we live in East Germany, and "Instagram is the Stasi."
Reflection: Politics as Technology, AI Decisions, and Stalin Quotes
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- Jonathan finds Cadwalladr's talk a fascinating wake-up call regarding "Doge", Musk, Thiel, Sachs, Zuckerberg, Altman, Cook – all stealing data without overt consent.
- He references other points from her talk:
- "Politics is technology now." AI is driving decisions in organisations and governments.
- The Trump tariff regime was likely a product of asking an AI (like ChatGPT) how to implement tariffs.
- Trump calling the press "the enemy of the people" unknowingly quotes Stalin.
- She quotes historian Tim Snyder: "Do not obey in advance." In the age of techno-authoritarianism, we must learn to "digitally disobey."
Cadwalladr: Digital Disobedience and the Vision of a 'Beautiful Internet'
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- (Carole Cadwalladr TED Talk Clip):
- Digital disobedience can be simple: reject cookies, don't give real names, use Signal, etc. (She adds satirical examples like "don't bomb Yemen").
- Moments of feeling powerless can actually indicate impactful work (like her journalism). "They want us to feel powerless. That's the plan."
- Learn from figures like Alexei Navalny, who envisioned a "beautiful Russia of the future."
- We can envision and build a "beautiful internet of the future," free from corporate capture and data tracking.
Personal Uncertainty: AI's Potential vs. Techno-Authoritarianism Fears
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- Jonathan reflects on the scary situation and his own uncertainty about how to react regarding personal data sharing.
- He questions what individuals can do about the growing techno-authoritarianism driven by "Doge", Palantir, etc., globally.
- He mentions discussing AI with Benny Pye (who helps with his YouTube channel). Jonathan is unsure about AI – acknowledging its potential benefits (Benny uses it to help him) but also finding it scary.
- He worries about AI scraping the internet, and potentially government data (IRS via Palantir, X's Grok) for analysis.
- He asks whether this massive data harvesting/analysis is good, worrying, or could be harnessed for societal benefit.
Cadwalladr Challenges OpenAI: 'Data Rights are Human Rights', Consent, and IP Theft
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- Jonathan introduces a final point from Cadwalladr's talk, directed at Sam Altman (OpenAI CEO), who was due to speak later at TED.
- (Carole Cadwalladr TED Talk Clip):
- She shows a plausible TED talk written by ChatGPT in her style, but notes AI doesn't understand context.
- She directly addresses Sam Altman: ChatGPT was trained on her intellectual property (IP), labour, and personal data, and "I did not consent."
- She notes The Guardian (her former employer) laid off journalists then signed a syndication deal with OpenAI – "it married its rapist."
- "But I do not consent." She calls for using existing copyright laws (which the UK government is trying to weaken to appease Silicon Valley/Trump).
- What's happening to journalism (theft, violation) is happening to other industries.
- "Data rights are human rights."
Cadwalladr to Big Tech: 'You Are Collaborators', Complicit in a Regime of Fear
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- (Carole Cadwalladr TED Talk Clip):
- She reflects on previously calling tech leaders "gods of Silicon Valley" but now corrects herself: "Sam Altman, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, you are not gods. You are men and you are careless."
- She warns them: allying with an autocrat (Trump) won't protect them; history (and oligarchy) doesn't work like that. She uses the example of Mikhail Khodorkovsky, jailed by Putin.
- "You are sucking up to a tyrant who is trying to destroy the laws who made your businesses possible."
- "You are collaborators. You're complicit in a regime of fear and cruelty."
- The rest of the public has a choice. She returned to TED to reclaim her story.
- "We are not powerless." (Referencing the 30,000 people who supported her). "We know who we are. And we know what we stand for."
- Her closing question to Silicon Valley: "Do you?"
Concluding Fears: Big Tech's Vying for Power and the Threat to Regulation
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- Jonathan questions if Silicon Valley stands only for growing power, authority, and data sets, recalling Palantir's "heads will roll" comment – likely meaning the public's heads.
- He finds these times incredibly worrying, linking the tech issues to conventional wars (Ukraine) and shifting alliances (Trump joining Russia's side).
- He sees Palantir, Musk, and other tech companies behind Trump, vying for more control using public data. He questions the end goal and worldview of figures like Alex Karp (Palantir CEO).
- He advises watching the full Palantir and Cadwalladr videos to understand the situation affecting US, UK, and all governments.
- Tech entities are vying for power, control, money, and data.
- Regulatory bodies like the EU and UK have tried to stand up to this, but the Trump administration, lobbied by tech companies, is using potential trade deals to demand the removal of these regulatory obstacles.
- The message to the EU/UK: No trade deal unless you remove regulations hindering the "broligarchy's" power.
Wrap up
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- Jonathan concludes, stating the situation is deeply worrying.